Wreck update

Express, Liverpool, Rocket, Dirty Little Monster, etc.

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67plexi
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Wreck update

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In years past I built 4 Express and 2 Rockets. Then moved to the Dumble side of the amp garage.
When tuning the Express or Rocket I would go through up to 150 or so preamp tubes to get the
Sound I was after, It took hours if not days. In the past I thought it was the Mallory caps
And transformers that gave the Wreck sound, Update I just replaced all the cheap resistors
With Mepco/Electra and IRC 1%, To my old ears the sound is 1000% improvement with the good resistors, No high end hash fat and thick smooth as silk. And the voltages are spot on.

Take care, Steve. :D
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So, metal film? Interesting.

BTW, what wood is that? Gorgeous!
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1 watters I presume?

Gimme some of that money, so I can build ONE! :D
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Re: Wreck update

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Stackpole and TRW are the original resistor brands used in Trainwrecks.

As stated 100's of times over every part matters.

Mepco are dumble's OEM
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look at all the amp forums,all the debates, all the techy info. The big debates if you could hear a difference in different caps or resistors of same values or types and so on.
Even the lead dress and many other things.
Many will argue that it isn't possible. But some know they make a difference or make a difference in the sound/tone of the amp or its response to note bloom or top end hash or smoothness.
I think sometimes its hard to explain,or maybe it can't be explained. Maybe its something that some train their ears to. And even some amps built with the same parts all measured, exact in every way,one may still sound better than the other one.
I think this is one reason Ken had the 10 rating. maybe he compared how the amps sounded.And if they didn't rate in the last 8,9 or 10. Then they weren't good enough. I think the pots also have an effect.
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Tell us more old ears!
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Impedance plays a huge roll in the total sound. i.e. the quality of your soldering.
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Well it did the same thing with the Express.

Photo #004 old resistors pulled.

One thing the amps sounded great before the resistor change.

Also in my last six builds I only use Mil-Spec. resistors.

I scored the Mepco/Electra resistors for my Steel String Singer and OD100SR builds.
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I used all metal films in my Concorde and it sounds great.
I dont have it setting beside a real concorde so cant say it sounds 'right'.
But great will do!
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Im drooling on my keyboard looking at that cab!Love to see the top and sides!!!Happy New Year!!!Mikey
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