V4 / 5 1.5K grid resistor wattage

Express, Liverpool, Rocket, Dirty Little Monster, etc.

Moderators: pompeiisneaks, Colossal

Post Reply
User avatar
Ron Worley
Posts: 908
Joined: Mon Dec 24, 2007 8:21 pm
Location: Keller, TX

V4 / 5 1.5K grid resistor wattage

Post by Ron Worley »

For some reason I have this resistor listed as 2W metal film (Vishay BC). Looking at the pics of Franny and the undocmented '90 Wreck (see attached pic), they appear to be regular 1/2W carbon film...

I searched the board, but no joy. Can someone help me get this right?

Thanks in advance,

Ron
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
User avatar
Bob-I
Posts: 3791
Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2006 10:06 pm
Location: Hillsborough NJ

Re: V4 / 5 1.5K grid resistor wattage

Post by Bob-I »

The grid stopper wattage is not important. 1/2 watt works fine. I use 1 watt just because I use 1 watters for signal everywhere.
User avatar
dartanion
Posts: 1562
Joined: Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:02 pm
Location: San Jose, CA
Contact:

Re: V4 / 5 1.5K grid resistor wattage

Post by dartanion »

The reason for a high wattage metal film is for noise reduction. Check out Aiken's site for the article on resistor types.
Eardrums!!! We don't need no stinkin' eardrums!
User avatar
skyboltone
Posts: 2287
Joined: Wed May 10, 2006 7:02 pm
Location: Sparks, NV, where nowhere looks like home.

Re: V4 / 5 1.5K grid resistor wattage

Post by skyboltone »

Bob-I wrote:The grid stopper wattage is not important. 1/2 watt works fine. I use 1 watt just because I use 1 watters for signal everywhere.
Bob, I take it you've given up on RN-65s. What are you using for 1 watt matal films?

Dan
The Last of the World's Great Human Beings
Seek immediate medical attention if you suddenly go either deaf or blind.
If you put the Federal Government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in five years time there would be a shortage of sand.
User avatar
Ron Worley
Posts: 908
Joined: Mon Dec 24, 2007 8:21 pm
Location: Keller, TX

Re: V4 / 5 1.5K grid resistor wattage

Post by Ron Worley »

So there is some disagreement here...

Should it a higher wattage than 1W? I agree metal film is quieter, I need to read up on Aiken's site on exactly what's going here....

I had ordered 3W metal film.. but the Franny pics threw me off, hence the question. They look regular old 1/2 carbon film to me...

Ron
User avatar
jjman
Posts: 753
Joined: Sat Oct 06, 2007 2:33 pm
Location: Central NJ USA

Re: V4 / 5 1.5K grid resistor wattage

Post by jjman »

Normally there should be no current flowing thru the grid stopper so I'm not clear on how the type would affect noise level. I guess the voltage swing can be corrupted by "noisy" resistors?

Using a higher wattage resistor in a location subjected to heat is a good idea. Such as across a tube socket with downward facing tubes. I've read that a 1/2watter is more susceptible to heat damage than a 1-2watter.
If it says "Vintage" on it, -it isn't.
User avatar
dartanion
Posts: 1562
Joined: Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:02 pm
Location: San Jose, CA
Contact:

Re: V4 / 5 1.5K grid resistor wattage

Post by dartanion »

Eardrums!!! We don't need no stinkin' eardrums!
User avatar
Bob-I
Posts: 3791
Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2006 10:06 pm
Location: Hillsborough NJ

Re: V4 / 5 1.5K grid resistor wattage

Post by Bob-I »

skyboltone wrote:
Bob-I wrote:The grid stopper wattage is not important. 1/2 watt works fine. I use 1 watt just because I use 1 watters for signal everywhere.
Bob, I take it you've given up on RN-65s. What are you using for 1 watt matal films?

Dan
No, I haven't given up on RN65's, but they're only for plate loads on Dumble style amps. Everything else I use 1 watt CF.
User avatar
Richie
Posts: 1174
Joined: Mon Jan 09, 2006 3:44 am
Location: Ky

Re: V4 / 5 1.5K grid resistor wattage

Post by Richie »

seems as years go by, the newer 1/2 CF are smaller in size than the ones of years ago. Which may look in size very close to a 1 watter of today.
Sometimes too, the brand you use might be a different looking size in the same wattage.
1/2 CF should be fine,and as they attach to the tube pin,then the wire to the end of the resistor. So its sticking up in the air,the bigger resistors might come closer to the output jacks etc.. So the 1/2 watters might be the best to use in this section,and as was posted, this is what was used in the real wreck,but the 1 watters we have today would also work. I wouldn't use anything bigger.
User avatar
jjman
Posts: 753
Joined: Sat Oct 06, 2007 2:33 pm
Location: Central NJ USA

Re: V4 / 5 1.5K grid resistor wattage

Post by jjman »

dartanion wrote:Here you go:

http://aikenamps.com/ResistorNoise.htm
".......If no current (AC or DC) flows in the resistor, the noise is equal to the thermal noise......"

" the thermal noise of a 1K carbon resistor is the same as a 1K metal film; it is independent of material..."

Sounds like a grid stopper's material isn't going to affect noise. Unless it has current flowing thru it, which is not normal (I think.)
If it says "Vintage" on it, -it isn't.
Post Reply