Pre '60 style TV front AC4 build
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Pre '60 style TV front AC4 build
Yet another locked-down /clear that drawer project ...
Finally I have time to sort my junk and find out that I had most bits for a vintage AC4 build, "à la" :
I'm going to stick to the original as closely as reasonably possible (budget-wise) but a toroidal PT and possibly the addition of a trem/depth 250k pot in place of the fixed value R9 (100k) ...
... any comments/questions/criticisms?
I also wish I could read some suggestions about the assembly of the TV front ...
Finally I have time to sort my junk and find out that I had most bits for a vintage AC4 build, "à la" :
I'm going to stick to the original as closely as reasonably possible (budget-wise) but a toroidal PT and possibly the addition of a trem/depth 250k pot in place of the fixed value R9 (100k) ...
... any comments/questions/criticisms?
I also wish I could read some suggestions about the assembly of the TV front ...
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So ... I'm pretty much on my own this time, does it seem. I couldn't find no information at all beyond the above picture of the front & what's mentionned on the Vox showroom website, which claims that:
One more question, if you don't mind:
- do you know what these (picture below) "studs" are, which rise the ground bus well above the chassis
(to be continued...)
Several listings on the internet show AC-2 (pre AC4 name for the same circuit, as well as AC-6) dated from 1960, although with the "traditional Vox styling" front. My guess thus is that the TV front was available only before 1960. I changed the title of my post accordingly.http://www.voxshowroom.com/uk/amp/ac4.html wrote:In 1961, the TV front cabinet styling of the AC-6 was replaced with what what now be known as "traditional Vox styling" and the amp name went back to AC-2.
One more question, if you don't mind:
- do you know what these (picture below) "studs" are, which rise the ground bus well above the chassis
(to be continued...)
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For the ground bus I think you could just use a small screw (like M3) and fasten it to the chassis with a nut and locking washer. Maybe use a small file and cut a notch in the top for the wire.
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Thanks for the suggestion! I'm not sure how a zinc-plated (mostly) screw will "take" the solder but that's an idea...
My best B plan remains a solder eyelet screwed above a spacer, though.
My best B plan remains a solder eyelet screwed above a spacer, though.
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You're probably looking for something similar to this:
https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/ ... PbEALw_wcB
They're isolated turrets. They have a screw in base that you can use to mount them through a chassis, and then solder to the top part. I've used them, got a few in the past in a shipment from I think Sluckey or Bob S. (Or maybe both?) At any rate, I love them. I use them sparingly as my supply is dwindling
~Phil
https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/ ... PbEALw_wcB
They're isolated turrets. They have a screw in base that you can use to mount them through a chassis, and then solder to the top part. I've used them, got a few in the past in a shipment from I think Sluckey or Bob S. (Or maybe both?) At any rate, I love them. I use them sparingly as my supply is dwindling
~Phil
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Clever!
Thank you sir...
You're feeding my curiosity beyond what I thought I needed. The kind of turrets I was talking about actually are ground points so isolation is not needed, but now that I know, I can see one of these isolated turret, which seems to be used as the connector for the tremolo footswitch...
8€ plus shipping to France seems overkill, but at least you helped me with the layout.
So far, I'm still working on that thing I'd like to call "cab", though. I'm keeping the best for the end...
You're feeding my curiosity beyond what I thought I needed. The kind of turrets I was talking about actually are ground points so isolation is not needed, but now that I know, I can see one of these isolated turret, which seems to be used as the connector for the tremolo footswitch...
8€ plus shipping to France seems overkill, but at least you helped me with the layout.
So far, I'm still working on that thing I'd like to call "cab", though. I'm keeping the best for the end...
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Heat is the solution to everything (except soldering germanium transistors)
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Sure...
I think you're right, afterwards. I'll probably machine 2 screws to be used as ground turrets. Once screwed through the chassis & welded in place, they will be closer to the original design...
Those isolated turrets are another kind though, but as it is a "clear that drawer" kind of build, I'll probably use some pieces of eyelet boards...
So, here it started, "from scratch"-style:
I think you're right, afterwards. I'll probably machine 2 screws to be used as ground turrets. Once screwed through the chassis & welded in place, they will be closer to the original design...
Those isolated turrets are another kind though, but as it is a "clear that drawer" kind of build, I'll probably use some pieces of eyelet boards...
So, here it started, "from scratch"-style:
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Mais qu'est-ce que vous allez faire avec le chocolat?
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Looks beautiful, I am sure it will sound amazing too!
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Cheers
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Soundwise, I'm not sure at how it will sound. I've read that several builders changed the grid resistor R8 (5M6) of the EF86 for a lower (eg: 1M5) value, following the example of the AC15 (out the top of my head) which has otherwise different values, to make the amp sound "fuller" but I'm not sure at how it translates in terms of EF86 settings. I'll do the maths as per Merlin's instructions (1) but so far I am only concerned by copying the schematic as closely as possible.
Anyway, so far, not so bad...
... & I'll weld the two parts together when I'm done with the drilling for the isolated turrets, of my own...
To paraphrase Uncle Doug:
- when I write "clear that drawer" well, I mean it!
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(1) http://www.valvewizard.co.uk/pentode.html
Anyway, so far, not so bad...
... & I'll weld the two parts together when I'm done with the drilling for the isolated turrets, of my own...
To paraphrase Uncle Doug:
- when I write "clear that drawer" well, I mean it!
_
(1) http://www.valvewizard.co.uk/pentode.html
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Your cutout for the panel controls came out perfect! Congrats!
What tools did you use to cut it out?
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What tools did you use to cut it out?
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Thanks!
I used a router and a copying bit to follow an aluminium ruler screwed from behind, where it won't show after assembly - for the large portion. The sides I sawn roughly, then reworked following pencil marks, using the router.
Welded chassis, almost ready for paint...
... but the woodworking is a pain - even though I did not event attempt to make finger joints - as shown by the poor alignements on the left.
My small workshop is all dedicated to metalworking and mechanics...
I used a router and a copying bit to follow an aluminium ruler screwed from behind, where it won't show after assembly - for the large portion. The sides I sawn roughly, then reworked following pencil marks, using the router.
Welded chassis, almost ready for paint...
... but the woodworking is a pain - even though I did not event attempt to make finger joints - as shown by the poor alignements on the left.
My small workshop is all dedicated to metalworking and mechanics...
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Any advice against wiring Fenderish Hi/Lo inputs instead of the two parallel ones "à la" Vox
It won't be a perfect clone anyway ...
It won't be a perfect clone anyway ...