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angelodp
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Soldering to pots

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What is the best technique for soldering to pots... have had varying success. Is it just a honkin big soldering iron with high heat, or can i use my smaller tip at extreme heat levels for a short burst.

ange.

PS any big issue with running a suspended bus wire as in the dumble layouts?
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cut

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What about the cut pot... no ground there ??

ange
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Should be no issue with a suspended ground buss wire...many would say it's preferable because each time you solder to a pot you create a little ground loop (but it's usually not a problem).

If the pot is PEC it's supposed to be a real PITA. I used PECs for the first time in mine and did not solder to the backs of the pots (so I can't verify that). If it's another brand it may be easier. Alphas are certainly easy but I would 'scrape up' the back of the pot where I intended to solder to.

Cut uses no ground. Some people expect them to work 'backwards' (less high-end as you turn it clockwise) but I like consistency in the way the pots behave so I did it like the layout shows (which decreases high-end as you turn it CCW).
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Updated Layout posted correcting Bass pot wiring.

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hi, looks like the wiring is off on the GZ34 in the layout picture. The gray wires should be on the 8/2 pin, with green/yellow on the 4/6 pin.

That being said, the work that you two have done for this is just amazing! thanks for making such a great resource for the rest of us rocket builders!

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Is this correct

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Is this corrected now on that wire fix?

ange
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Angelodp, that is correct.
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schematic: no fuse on Neutral
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Tim will correct that error and then I will post. We just had the clocking of the socket wrong- thanks for the catch!

The wires are correct on our layout, just the numbers and guide pin need to be clocked around so that pins 1 & 8 point "northwest" just like all the other tubes in the amp. It would be a very KF thing to have them all this way.

Jaysg- Sorry, I don't understand your comment, can you expand on it??

Let us know if there are any more errors.

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You posted a "Taylor" Rocket schematic which shows two fuses on the AC. There's an unmarked one after the switch. It should come before the switch. There's one marked 2.0A SB on the White wire (Neutral). That's either an unintentional mistake or meant for a 220 country where you have to fuse both Hot and Neutral.

Additionally, from what I've seen, KF alternated his heater wiring. I have no idea what that buys you, but he did. The layout shows black and green wires, which makes it easier to follow than his handiwork. I've started a thread in the discussion area. See what happens.
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The only fuse on a real Rocket is the 2 amp SB as indicated... THe AC-30 may have had this extra fuse, but the Rocket does not...

I didn't catch the other fuse on the schematic.... but it does not exist on the real amp... Are you saying the the fuse should go on the upper AC wire???

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You guys sure it's 2A? A 2A usually blew in mine but not every time. Only other value I had on hand was 4A slo-blo. I'm almost sure that the Vox AC30 uses a 4A fuse for 120vac mains (I think it's 2A slo-blo if you're @ 240vac mains). Doug Hoffman's 'AC30' type circuit used a 3A slo-blo there (which I intend to try once I get down to Radio Shack).

EDIT: remember...this amp needs a bigger fuse than a Liverpool due to the tube rectifier.
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layout

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Ron, not sure what's up, the current layout seems to have lost some resolution and getting a bit mushy? If its not too much trouble, its great to have a crisp hi-res graphic to work with. Perhaps as you and dr have been correcting this it has been loosing some resolution??

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Ron Worley wrote:Are you saying the the fuse should go on the upper AC wire???
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Provenance, please

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Just so we can keep the facts straight on where this amp sits in the history of Trainwreck amps, could you please supply a gut shot and the name of the amp that you are documenting?

I am especially curious to see the gut shot of the power supply since none has been previously observed for a Rocket. Until now, we have only supposed it similar to a Liverpool.

Tube complement?

Voltages?
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