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tomo
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Post by tomo »

I tried these solders.
My favorite is alpha metal.
Which solders do you use?
Which solder is good for Dumble clone?
I'd like to share.
Thank you.

Kester "44"Pocket Pack Solder 0.031" Sn60/Pb40 -->vintage tone
Kester "66" Silver Solder 0.031" Sn62/Pb36/Ag2 -->good picking nuance
Kester Vintage"44" 0.028" Sn60/Pb40 -->vintage tone. narrow range
Kester "282" 0.062" Sn63 Flux282 -->warm middle
Kester "66" 1.5mm Sn60/Pb40 -->vintage tone
Kester Black Can 0.125" Stearine flux Sn40 Pb60 -->fat middle
Kester Brown Can 0.045" A flux Sn40 Pb60 -->fat low and middle.
Kester Blue Can 0.125" Sn50 Pb50 -->solid
Multicore Crystal 400 0.022" Sn63/Pb35/Crystal2 -->flexibility in low
Multicore D768 0.032" Sn63 X32B -->no hi-end
Multicore 948 18SWG Sn60/Pb40 -->fat, but no charactor
Multicore 364 18SWG Sn60/Pb40 -->fat, a little solid
Multicore 362 16SWG Sn40/Pb60 -->fat middle
Nassau from Western Electric 3×4mm B Rosin (SPEC AT 7241) -->good balace. but a little boomy.
Nassau from Western Electric 0.040" Sn45/Pb55 Water White Rosin -->
Nassau from AT&T 0.094" Sn38/Pb62 B Rosin -->fat, but no charactor
ALPHA METALS 0.062" Sn60/Pb40 -->similar to Multicore 364
ALPHA METALS 0.015" Sn60/Pb40 -->wide range, natural tone
ALPHA METALS 0.032" -->tight low
ALPHA METALS 0.081" -->good balance, but a little less hi
ANCHOR SOLDER 0.032" -->fat, but no charactor
ASARCO 13GA Sn50/Pb50 -->good attack in low
tonelab2
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Post by tonelab2 »

How did you conduct these experiments to arrive at these conclusions?
How and what were the test beds?
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Post by Icetech »

i think his post is meant as a joke to point out how picky people are in the tiny things in their amp:)

BTW... i use Radio shack, whatever my hand grabs solder...

I find that it makes nice piles of solder.. and remelts good as i fix 100 problems and swap parts 3 times to fix things:)
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Post by heisthl »

This must be a spoof - If you really are serious and you think the solder type is changing your tone to the degree you are mentioning are you sure you are making a good enough mechanical connection before you solder the joint and soldering at the correct temperatures? Has anyone else ever noticed a tonal or touch response change with different solders? I have noticed that if you do the signal path with red wire you get a better rock sound and you can't beat blue wire for blues amps.
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Pesonally I just tie my wires in a knot. Seems to work ok but I think I'm lacking gain.
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Post by Ed de Jager »

A while ago on the ax84 bbs(or was it aron nelson`s forum?)there was a guy named walters with all kinds of ridiculous questions.
This post reminded me of him.

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Post by Ed de Jager »

I meant the one from tomo off course:-)
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Post by Noel Grassy »

Bob-I wrote:Pesonally I just tie my wires in a knot. Seems to work ok but I think I'm lacking gain.
Hmmmm--that was a problem for me as well. I found that after tying securely I could apply .75 gm of Big League Chew directly to the turret making these charming little umbrellas throughout my amps. The one time I gigged with the first one of these it kinda cut out on me. I just picked it up and stood in on shaker the rest of the set! It was cool.
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Post by Allynmey »

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: 8)

Someone ought to reprint tomos post on the gear page! :lol: They will fall for it hook, line, and sinker!
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Post by skyboltone »

It really doesn't matter how you hook up the wires as long as you're sincere.

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Post by Icetech »

skyboltone wrote:It really doesn't matter how you hook up the wires as long as you're sincere.

My .02
YMMV
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Post by Chicken Head Red »

OK I'm gonna let the cat out of the bag. Resistors ? who cares? Caps any ole cap'll do. THE SECRET TO GRAIL TONE IS, NOS RED CHICKEN HEADS! Not fire engine red, but more of a maroon color. This is CRITICAL in th OD section and highly desirable throughout. I won't tell you where I find them. They're getting scarce and when they're gone they're gone. Happy hunting You'll have to beat me to them! ':twisted:'
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Post by Darkbluemurder »

This is great but the best mod to improve the sound of a guitar amp is to take out the pilot light and the standby switch so they are no longer confusing the electrons :)

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Post by Luthierwnc »

Hi Tomo and welcome to the Amp Garage. We hope you will put up some of your clips from time to time. Speaker opinions are always useful too!

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Post by pamaz67 »

I left audio hi end as an hobby, because lot of people was going crazy listening to solders or the spikes where the amps sits, and forgetting completely of the music.
I hope guitar amps will be not the same.........
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