Changing caps to get a more transparent, sparkly, rich CLEAN

[Joost]

After playing my amp for a year now, I am in the mood to do some more experimentation. I'm still really excited about the amp and its qualities. Even though this amp has a built-in buffered Dumbleator and master volume, it gets quite close to my benchmark clean tone.

My benchmark clean tone is the Carr Rambler. For those of you who don't know that one, it's a non-master volume single channel clean amp based on an old Fender 6L6 design.

Now, I want to experiment with my clean channel on my 124 to get even closer to the Carr clean sound. And yes, I know there are vast differences in the layout and design.

I was thinking of experimenting with caps first. Which capacitors should I use to get closer to that kind of clean tone?

Mullard Mustard? Mallory 150s (which is what Carr uses)? Certain SoZo caps?

Or do I need to change my power board to all Solen fast recovery caps like Carr does in all his amps?
Who can help?

[diagrammatiks]

ya all film in the power supply is the first step.

[erwin_ve]

Joost: maybe make the skyliner tonestack more towards a classic tonestack?

[Joost]

Joost: maybe make the skyliner tonestack more towards a classic tonestack?

Well, I don't know if that's the solution. You see, I like the basic 'voice' of the amp, I just want it a bit more transparent and harmonically rich. The Carr just has a richer/clearer sound. I figured that could be addressed by tone caps or power supply caps

[erwin_ve]

Joost: maybe make the skyliner tonestack more towards a classic tonestack?

Well, I don't know if that's the solution. You see, I like the basic 'voice' of the amp, I just want it a bit more transparent and harmonically rich. The Carr just has a richer/clearer sound. I figured that could be addressed by tone caps or power supply caps

Maybe we can try some things tommorow? edit; sry friday!
I have some ideas about this.
The power supply; voltages and things like totem pole arrangement of the filter caps have both influence on feel and sound. Not a fast take to try

[llemtt]

ya all film in the power supply is the first step.

marketing...

[llemtt]

Mullard Mustard? Mallory 150s (which is what Carr uses)? Certain SoZo caps?

marketing victim again...

expensive components won't make your amp sound the way you want, focus on design instead

consider also that ODS cascades clean into OD, change clean sound and OD will be affected too and not in a pleasant way...

is your treble cap a ceramic one? I suggest you start from here and change with a not so expensive silver-mica

than consider if you like the direction your amp has taken

cheers
teo

[Structo]

I gotta say that I played somebody's D'Lite that they converted to Solens and now I know what it means when somebody calls them fast.

The amp felt real stiff, no life in it at all.
Some may like that in a high gain metal amp but for rock/ blues I didn't care for it.

But you know what?
You will never know how something feels or sounds unless you experience it.

[noworrybeefcurry]

Just my input, but I always felt that a big part of the ramblers sound was the fact that both 6l6s are running in class A. Also I don't believe that it is using a standard long tail Phase inverter, I think it is something closer to a 5e3 style phase inverter

[diagrammatiks]

ya all film in the power supply is the first step.

marketing...

marketing?

Are you for real?

Are you seriously saying that the difference between film caps and electrolytic caps is marketing?

Seriously? Do you understand science?

[BobW]

"Seriously? Do you understand science?"

2 ambigious words here: Understand and Science. Can you be a little more specific?

[dcribbs1412]

things like totem pole arrangement of the filter caps have both influence on feel and sound.

You mean changing the sequence of the first filter caps?

Darin

[erwin_ve]

things like totem pole arrangement of the filter caps have both influence on feel and sound.

You mean changing the sequence of the first filter caps?

Darin

hi Darin, the b1 is already totem pole, but modern dumble designs have all filter nodes in totem pole. It feels faster.

[dcribbs1412]

things like totem pole arrangement of the filter caps have both influence on feel and sound.

You mean changing the sequence of the first filter caps?

Darin

hi Darin, the b1 is already totem pole, but modern dumble designs have all filter nodes in totem pole. It feels faster.

Thanks erwin
If understand correctly...this would be what some call the precision power supply.

[diagrammatiks]

"Seriously? Do you understand science?"

2 ambigious words here: Understand and Science. Can you be a little more specific?

You really need me to explain the differences between aluminum electrolytic capacitors and film?

This seems like something you could easily try out for yourself.