Yes Dave, it's a must, at least in my case also.
My experience is that you have to hit V1 with a hefty amount of signal. Therefore, your Pup's strength controls the clean volume's position. For SCs I usually run a bit past #7 (on the dial), easy in my case to find the sweet spot.
All the best.
Big rehash - Strat into Dumble - what really works
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Re: Big rehash - Strat into Dumble - what really works
Horacio
Play in tune and B#!
Play in tune and B#!
Re: Big rehash - Strat into Dumble - what really works
I say again, because we listen to our Dumble guitar heroes, mine is Robben Ford which may include many of you.
You have your favorite album.
Mine is the "Mystic Mile" & the Thin Blue Line.
You have the tones in your head and when you try your Telecaster through your ODS,
you are disappointed.
Mainly because of the recording or engineering tricks in post production.
Only when we listen to the live videos with good fidelity do we truly hear the sound of his amp.
Luckily, on the good recordings they are remarkably similar.
Even though I could never get any of my Tele's to sound similar to RB's Tele's tone, I am quite happy with my
humbucker tones.
I was a Fender fanatic for years with multiple Strats and a few Telecasters that I never could bond with.
Here is the bottom line for me, there are so many variables in the signal chain on these amps it is a bit of a challenge to
get what you want out of your amp.
I am a fan of the Dumbleator, I hated my amp until I built my D'lator.
After that I was able to achieve pretty much my dream tone, at least with a humbucker guitar including my latest
Traditional LP acquisition.
Sure single coils are more of a challenge, but it is attainable, but usually at the cost of tone.
You have your favorite album.
Mine is the "Mystic Mile" & the Thin Blue Line.
You have the tones in your head and when you try your Telecaster through your ODS,
you are disappointed.
Mainly because of the recording or engineering tricks in post production.
Only when we listen to the live videos with good fidelity do we truly hear the sound of his amp.
Luckily, on the good recordings they are remarkably similar.
Even though I could never get any of my Tele's to sound similar to RB's Tele's tone, I am quite happy with my
humbucker tones.
I was a Fender fanatic for years with multiple Strats and a few Telecasters that I never could bond with.
Here is the bottom line for me, there are so many variables in the signal chain on these amps it is a bit of a challenge to
get what you want out of your amp.
I am a fan of the Dumbleator, I hated my amp until I built my D'lator.
After that I was able to achieve pretty much my dream tone, at least with a humbucker guitar including my latest
Traditional LP acquisition.
Sure single coils are more of a challenge, but it is attainable, but usually at the cost of tone.
Tom
Don't let that smoke out!
Don't let that smoke out!
Re: Big rehash - Strat into Dumble - what really works
Totally agree, that about sums it up Tom.Structo wrote:
Here is the bottom line for me, there are so many variables in the signal chain on these amps it is a bit of a challenge to
get what you want out of your amp.
All the best.
Horacio
Play in tune and B#!
Play in tune and B#!
Re: Big rehash - Strat into Dumble - what really works
I have always really dug how the 70s circuits work with Strats..
Here's a 100watter 70s circuit with a Rosewood SC Strat with Low output pups. We were using a Quinn HBS pedal for some specific Jimmy Herring type tones..
http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=12216036
And here's a YT clip with my EJ strat through a killer amp Mark Kane built.
http://youtu.be/bs1nW3--DVc
Here's a 100watter 70s circuit with a Rosewood SC Strat with Low output pups. We were using a Quinn HBS pedal for some specific Jimmy Herring type tones..
http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=12216036
And here's a YT clip with my EJ strat through a killer amp Mark Kane built.
http://youtu.be/bs1nW3--DVc
Does your mother know you talk that way??
Re: Big rehash - Strat into Dumble - what really works
My Lollar Special Strat PUs sound great with my #102 clones:
Neck - DCR:6.7k, I:3.01h, AlNiCo5
Middle - DCR:7.1k, I:3.26h, AlNiCo5
Bridge - DCR:7.6k, I:3.6h, AlNiCo5
Wired to 250k vol and tone pots (1 master tone). .1uF 6PS tone cap (wired on all 3 PUs). In place of the middle tone pot I have a Vilex PRTB (variable passive mid boost). I've also got the Illitch backplate to get rid of the hum.
At least it LOOKS like a strat still!
-Aaron
Neck - DCR:6.7k, I:3.01h, AlNiCo5
Middle - DCR:7.1k, I:3.26h, AlNiCo5
Bridge - DCR:7.6k, I:3.6h, AlNiCo5
Wired to 250k vol and tone pots (1 master tone). .1uF 6PS tone cap (wired on all 3 PUs). In place of the middle tone pot I have a Vilex PRTB (variable passive mid boost). I've also got the Illitch backplate to get rid of the hum.
At least it LOOKS like a strat still!
-Aaron
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Re: Big rehash - Strat into Dumble - what really works
I wonder if the higher output pickups make the difference for you?
Re: Big rehash - Strat into Dumble - what really works
I don't have any guitars with lower output pickups to compare so I'm not certain. I'm guessing there's more to it than that, though. I think a lot of it's just how you play and what works for your style and touch. I'm sure other people would have trouble bonding with my rig and vise versa.tele caster wrote:I wonder if the higher output pickups make the difference for you?
Believe it or not I put my Jensen C12-Ks back in my cabs and as middy and honky as they are it seems to work a lot better than the G1265s for me. Most people hate those speakers. The Celestions are much better balanced overall, but I never quite bonded with the way they react. Certain harmonics just pop out in an ugly way with them that get smoothed over with the Jensens.
-Aaron