mesa studio 22 with eq
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mesa studio 22 with eq
Hi folks, i,m a newbie here and aftre having a good browse of the site decided you people may well be the best informed around to suggest mods to get my mesa close to a dumble tone, i,ve had a look at building one from scratch but concluded that it may be a little ambitious just at the moment
Re: mesa studio 22 with eq
It would almost certainly be easier than converting a studio .22, and plus you get 2 nice clean amps rather than one hackjobjestaudio wrote: i,ve had a look at building one from scratch but concluded that it may be a little ambitious just at the moment
Re: mesa studio 22 with eq
not converting just tweaking a little bit, plus the scratch build is far more than a mere mortal living in the uk can affaord at the momentdave g wrote:It would almost certainly be easier than converting a studio .22, and plus you get 2 nice clean amps rather than one hackjobjestaudio wrote: i,ve had a look at building one from scratch but concluded that it may be a little ambitious just at the moment
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Re: mesa studio 22 with eq
Its should be possible to do some tweaks to the .22 to get it closer to a Dumble sound....but you should consider gutting the chassis. Modding the PCB will be a pain in the neck.
The .22 has the boost in front of the clean preamp and is closer to a Mark I boogie (the Santana original) than to a Dumble. Other Boogies (like the Mark II B and Mark II C) are much closer to Dumble's designs.
So leave the EQ and the PSU and gut the rest.
The .22 has the boost in front of the clean preamp and is closer to a Mark I boogie (the Santana original) than to a Dumble. Other Boogies (like the Mark II B and Mark II C) are much closer to Dumble's designs.
So leave the EQ and the PSU and gut the rest.
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You might be pleasantly surprised. I'm half way through a scratch build at the minute (6L6 D'lite - all parts now purchased) and it's working out cheaper than I was expecting.jestaudio wrote:the scratch build is far more than a mere mortal living in the uk can affaord at the moment
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Re: mesa studio 22 with eq
Soon it will be mine *evil laugh*Bigwan wrote:
You might be pleasantly surprised. I'm half way through a scratch build at the minute (6L6 D'lite - all parts now purchased) and it's working out cheaper than I was expecting.
Re: mesa studio 22 with eq
The way mesa amps are built it's not an easy mod and tweek amp like a fender or early marshall. The boards are rather fragile and wires tend to break loose during repairs.
Other things to consider
The circuits are pretty different so no quick resistor or cap swap will get you in the ball park.
The Output transformer is probably wrong - 35watts voxish -
considering dumbles are 50 and 100 watt fenderish iron - then impedance....
The Output tubes are EL84's 9 Pin stock - Dumbles are 8 Pin
If you want to have a closer dumble tone you might want to consider using a Dumble style foot pedal and dial the amp back and run it flat, using the pedal to get the tone.
If the event you decide to build a clone. Instead of destroying your Mesa sell it, and use the $ to buy the correct parts. In the event you stop part way through your build you haven't destroyed a working amp, and what you have is still worth something to someone who dumbles.
Other things to consider
The circuits are pretty different so no quick resistor or cap swap will get you in the ball park.
The Output transformer is probably wrong - 35watts voxish -
considering dumbles are 50 and 100 watt fenderish iron - then impedance....
The Output tubes are EL84's 9 Pin stock - Dumbles are 8 Pin
If you want to have a closer dumble tone you might want to consider using a Dumble style foot pedal and dial the amp back and run it flat, using the pedal to get the tone.
If the event you decide to build a clone. Instead of destroying your Mesa sell it, and use the $ to buy the correct parts. In the event you stop part way through your build you haven't destroyed a working amp, and what you have is still worth something to someone who dumbles.
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Re: mesa studio 22 with eq
I have to say this is a pretty sensible suggestion.selloutrr wrote:If you want to have a closer dumble tone you might want to consider using a Dumble style foot pedal and dial the amp back and run it flat, using the pedal to get the tone.
If the event you decide to build a clone. Instead of destroying your Mesa sell it, and use the $ to buy the correct parts. In the event you stop part way through your build you haven't destroyed a working amp, and what you have is still worth something to someone who dumbles.
Chris