Master Volume in Effects Loop
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Master Volume in Effects Loop
Hey All,
I would like to put a volume control between the effects out and in jacks. In this way I can set a 'balance' in volume levels between the Overdrive Volume and the Master Volume on the front panel then use the new control to adjust the amps overall volume. I'm sure this has been done before. I was thinking maybe a volume pedal could do it.
Any ideas on the the pot value should be?
Cheers, Mike
I would like to put a volume control between the effects out and in jacks. In this way I can set a 'balance' in volume levels between the Overdrive Volume and the Master Volume on the front panel then use the new control to adjust the amps overall volume. I'm sure this has been done before. I was thinking maybe a volume pedal could do it.
Any ideas on the the pot value should be?
Cheers, Mike
The Jammy Dodger
Re: Master Volume in Effects Loop
That's what a Dumbleator is for.
Seriously, not hard to build and really improves the amp.
Seriously, not hard to build and really improves the amp.
Tom
Don't let that smoke out!
Don't let that smoke out!
Re: Master Volume in Effects Loop
Why put a pot there. The master volume does exactly what you described in a non hrm. In a hrm, the levels are independent anyway.
Re: Master Volume in Effects Loop
I use a volume pedal with a 250k pot in it. Works great, almost colorless but it does take a little high end off. I can run the masters up at 12:00 and keep the volume reasonable.
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Re: Master Volume in Effects Loop
Bob,
Thanks - I'll try a volume pot (250) like the pedal. That's what I was looking for.
Cheers, Miek
Thanks - I'll try a volume pot (250) like the pedal. That's what I was looking for.
Cheers, Miek
The Jammy Dodger
Re: Master Volume in Effects Loop
I was having some trouble with the post.JammyDodger wrote:Bob,
Thanks - I'll try a volume pot (250) like the pedal. That's what I was looking for.
Cheers, Miek
I used 250k because that's what I have. I'm thinking that 1M may be a better match.
Re: Master Volume in Effects Loop
I second this question!jelle wrote:Why put a pot there? The master volume does exactly what you described in a non hrm. In a hrm, the levels are independent anyway.
"Let's face it, the non HRMs are easier to play, there, I've said it." - Gil Ayan... AND HE"S IN GOOD COMPANY!
Black chassis' availble: http://cepedals.com/Dumble-Style-Chassis.html
Black chassis' availble: http://cepedals.com/Dumble-Style-Chassis.html
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Re: Master Volume in Effects Loop
Maybe to clarify. This is an HRM model. I would like to be able to balance the levels between the HRM and the clean channel, then use another volume (pedal, pot, etc) to set my overall level.
Cheers, mike
Cheers, mike
The Jammy Dodger
Re: Master Volume in Effects Loop
HRM's are usually wired with two separate MV's, but I'm assuming you wired your amp with the global MV then? Look in the files section at the Bluesmaster HRM layout.JammyDodger wrote:Maybe to clarify. This is an HRM model. I would like to be able to balance the levels between the HRM and the clean channel, then use another volume (pedal, pot, etc) to set my overall level.
Cheers, mike
TM
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Re: Master Volume in Effects Loop
TM,
That's just it. I built the Bluesmaster HRM. I have two Master Volumes. I would like to put a pot in the effects loop to have a MASTER Master Volume. (or is that Master^2?)
Cheers, Mike
That's just it. I built the Bluesmaster HRM. I have two Master Volumes. I would like to put a pot in the effects loop to have a MASTER Master Volume. (or is that Master^2?)
Cheers, Mike
The Jammy Dodger
Re: Master Volume in Effects Loop
Ahhh, the devil is in the details.......got ya now. Yeah, I guess it's the vol pedal then.JammyDodger wrote:TM,
That's just it. I built the Bluesmaster HRM. I have two Master Volumes. I would like to put a pot in the effects loop to have a MASTER Master Volume. (or is that Master^2?)
Cheers, Mike
TM
Re: Master Volume in Effects Loop
Ah! Thanks for the clarification.
FWIW, all the HRM builds I've done for the past couple of years I've been using the traditional 'Ratio/Master' topology rather than the dual master. I use a 1M linear taper for the ratio and 1M audio taper for the master and there doesn't appear to be any significant impact on the HRM stack response as a result in the load alteration.
FWIW, all the HRM builds I've done for the past couple of years I've been using the traditional 'Ratio/Master' topology rather than the dual master. I use a 1M linear taper for the ratio and 1M audio taper for the master and there doesn't appear to be any significant impact on the HRM stack response as a result in the load alteration.
"Let's face it, the non HRMs are easier to play, there, I've said it." - Gil Ayan... AND HE"S IN GOOD COMPANY!
Black chassis' availble: http://cepedals.com/Dumble-Style-Chassis.html
Black chassis' availble: http://cepedals.com/Dumble-Style-Chassis.html