Orange drop VS Chocolate drop

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Orange drop VS Chocolate drop

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Hi, there are big tonal differences between Orange and Chocolate drop caps?
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Re: Orange drop VS Chocolate drop

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The older CDE chocolate drops used the same "di-film" dielectric that was proprietary and thus was licensed from Sprague.

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Re: Orange drop VS Chocolate drop

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Sergio, my understanding is that early Sprague PS series and the CDE brown drops are Kraft and polyester. You can tell the early Spragues by the funny hunch back shape. I have not seen those early Spragues in any real Dumbles or photos but obviously I have not seen every Dumble amp. I like the sound of those brown drops, they are not round and thumpy like orange drops. They seem brighter but not harsh. Maybe good for 70s circuits. I think the Spragues are part of the big mid range sound of the 80s amplifiers. I have been using the brown drops for Fender builds and they work great.
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Re: Orange drop VS Chocolate drop

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Thanks guys , I really appreciated!
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Can you guess why I called this build from a few years back doo doo brown!

http://ampgarage.com/forum/download/file.php?id=20258

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TM, how did you like the sound of those caps in that circuit? Also, i am curious about the trimmer in the OD section.
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Charlie Wilson wrote:TM, how did you like the sound of those caps in that circuit? Also, i am curious about the trimmer in the OD section.
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That's a 70's circuit and those choco caps works well with it, edgy but not harsh in any manner. On the funky OD entrance; instead of the 1.2M resistor, I use a 560K or 680K and a 1M trimmer to tweak the amount of gain to taste.

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Thanks TM.
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Is anyone in the forum interested in selling a few CDE chocolate drops? I am looking for 2x 0.1uF and 2x0.047uF

Or does anyone have a good source for buying those?
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I love those brown drops and just used a couple in a brown 5F1 that I was reserving a 60s brown frame Jensen for. Sounds great. I just ran across Fleabay looking at caps and there are quite a few brown drops listed right now. Expensive, but I think I saw the values you're looking for. I also saw a bunch of blue drops and a few green. I have a fixation with old drop caps. :D

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Re: Orange drop VS Chocolate drop

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Blackburn wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2017 5:59 pm I love those brown drops and just used a couple in a brown 5F1 that I was reserving a 60s brown frame Jensen for. Sounds great. I just ran across Fleabay looking at caps and there are quite a few brown drops listed right now. Expensive, but I think I saw the values you're looking for. I also saw a bunch of blue drops and a few green. I have a fixation with old drop caps. :D

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Hi David, thanks for the reply. I've looked all over and unfortunately cannot seem to find the values I am after. I will keep trying :-)
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Bombacaototal wrote: Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:10 am
Blackburn wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2017 5:59 pm I love those brown drops and just used a couple in a brown 5F1 that I was reserving a 60s brown frame Jensen for. Sounds great. I just ran across Fleabay looking at caps and there are quite a few brown drops listed right now. Expensive, but I think I saw the values you're looking for. I also saw a bunch of blue drops and a few green. I have a fixation with old drop caps. :D

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Hi David, thanks for the reply. I've looked all over and unfortunately cannot seem to find the values I am after. I will keep trying :-)
Here are .047uf....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-NOS-Vintage-M ... SwuLZY6ZUJ

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-Mallory-05- ... SwA3dYGOzG

And .1uf....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1970s-NOS-Mallo ... Sw~AVYsvHX
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Re: Orange drop VS Chocolate drop

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Blackburn wrote: Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:18 pm
Bombacaototal wrote: Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:10 am
Blackburn wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2017 5:59 pm I love those brown drops and just used a couple in a brown 5F1 that I was reserving a 60s brown frame Jensen for. Sounds great. I just ran across Fleabay looking at caps and there are quite a few brown drops listed right now. Expensive, but I think I saw the values you're looking for. I also saw a bunch of blue drops and a few green. I have a fixation with old drop caps. :D

David

Hi David, thanks for the reply. I've looked all over and unfortunately cannot seem to find the values I am after. I will keep trying :-)
Here are .047uf....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-NOS-Vintage-M ... SwuLZY6ZUJ

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-Mallory-05- ... SwA3dYGOzG

And .1uf....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1970s-NOS-Mallo ... Sw~AVYsvHX
Fantastic! Thanks for the help. I just snatched them ;-)
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Re: Orange drop VS Chocolate drop

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Is anyone in the forum interested in selling a few CDE chocolate drops? I am looking for 2x 0.1uF and 2x0.047uF
Fantastic! Thanks for the help. I just snatched them)
You did notice those are all Mallorys, not CDE?
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Re: Orange drop VS Chocolate drop

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sluckey wrote: Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:04 pm
Is anyone in the forum interested in selling a few CDE chocolate drops? I am looking for 2x 0.1uF and 2x0.047uF
Fantastic! Thanks for the help. I just snatched them)
You did notice those are all Mallorys, not CDE?
Thanks for the note

Yes I saw, but since I have exhausted my opinions on the CDE and really cannot find the values I need I will give them a try versus the new production orange drops 6PS and see if I like the Mallory's better

Do you have any experience with them?
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