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Free shipping, so no complaints.
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interesting story and approach about Dumble, how he was selling those, and picking clients :P
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Dumble must have updated this amp later right? Looks like he removed the silk screen for overdrive special on the front, added a pot (master?) there to the right of the accent switch (now mid) and also added a pot out back (presence?). Original level is now ratio? Full effects loop too and relabeled.

Strange there is no mention of that. Yes, prices are nutty but this is LP burst rarity type gear....

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dbharris wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 12:38 pm Dumble must have updated this amp later right? Looks like he removed the silk screen for overdrive special on the front, added a pot (master?) there to the right of the accent switch (now mid) and also added a pot out back (presence?). Original level is now ratio? Full effects loop too and relabeled.

Strange there is no mention of that. Yes, prices are nutty but this is LP burst rarity type gear....

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according to the interview it seems to be all stock . But I would have assumed the same thing.
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When listening to the interview where he discusses the original price , I can’t help but notice this displayed tendency for people to assume that HAD was going to deliver anything for free to anyone, like some angelic benefactor to the music industry.

Obviously HAD wasn’t always exactly up front with pricing, that is self evident, but it’s always cute when players assume they are special enough to get things for free…let alone a Dumble amplifier…

One friend of mine, who shall remain nameless, once owned several dumbles …he is ashamed to say that he sold them off to essentially finance his night life …years later someone amazingly offered to GIVE him a free Dumble … he refused the gift because he didn’t feel like he deserved to have another Dumble after his disrespect…fwiw
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Interesting that HAD couldn't make a 100W that had "it" for this guy. Of course, he is hoping to get almost a quarter million for this amp, so...
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I thought that was the most interesting part of the interview. That there was some element of chance in the construction and assembly. Something Dumble wasn't able to control. A notion not consistent with his legend. There is ample evidence that the 'it' factor varied with his amps.
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Smitty wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 9:35 pm I thought that was the most interesting part of the interview. That there was some element of chance in the construction and assembly. Something Dumble wasn't able to control. A notion not consistent with his legend. There is ample evidence that the 'it' factor varied with his amps.
Robben Ford mentioned the same about an #102 'clone' dumble build for him, which according to HAD, it was as close as he could get, but to Robben never sounded the same. In this instance he didn't compare amps side by side, just went with his documentation. It was an interesting interview, wish I had it at hand, will try to find it on YouTube when I have some time
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Bombacaototal wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 1:25 am
Smitty wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 9:35 pm I thought that was the most interesting part of the interview. That there was some element of chance in the construction and assembly. Something Dumble wasn't able to control. A notion not consistent with his legend. There is ample evidence that the 'it' factor varied with his amps.
Robben Ford mentioned the same about an #102 'clone' dumble build for him, which according to HAD, it was as close as he could get, but to Robben never sounded the same. In this instance he didn't compare amps side by side, just went with his documentation. It was an interesting interview, wish I had it at hand, will try to find it on YouTube when I have some time
Jackson Browne and David Lindley have made similar comments.
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each D is made with different material.. so it wasnt possible to repeat the results (or yes but was no intention?)..small electric details but critical and big as a mountain in the ears of picky guitarists..
for some reason it was like this.. i can speculate - what was in the local store available in that time? :P
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I wonder what was the 100 watt serial number…
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WhopperPlate wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 4:00 pmI wonder what was the 100 watt serial number…
He said it was black suede, but didn't want to say who he sold it to. Given the very early vintage of the 50W, I'm guessing it's a pretty low SN.
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martin manning wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 5:58 pm
WhopperPlate wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 4:00 pmI wonder what was the 100 watt serial number…
He said it was black suede, but didn't want to say who he sold it to. Given the very early vintage of the 50W, I'm guessing it's a pretty low SN.
Maybe it’s 55…but then again it would make two amps sound closer if you used the same speaker lol…so maybe not…

But then again, a combo isn’t going to sound like a seperate head and speaker cabinet …so that “it factor” might just be dependent on some poor design choices by the client … :mrgreen:

He also mentions hanging out at the Pagoda when he started the 100w…anyone know how long he was stamping “Santa Cruz, California” on the back panel , and if he did after he moved away to Pasadena? If not , then this would likely be a later serial number…but I can’t help but notice the similarities between 22 and 55
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Bombacaototal wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 1:25 am
Smitty wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 9:35 pm I thought that was the most interesting part of the interview. That there was some element of chance in the construction and assembly. Something Dumble wasn't able to control. A notion not consistent with his legend. There is ample evidence that the 'it' factor varied with his amps.
Robben Ford mentioned the same about an #102 'clone' dumble build for him, which according to HAD, it was as close as he could get, but to Robben never sounded the same. In this instance he didn't compare amps side by side, just went with his documentation. It was an interesting interview, wish I had it at hand, will try to find it on YouTube when I have some time
This one? https://youtu.be/LO-QZNeIBYU
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