#183 5th Generation EL-34's (High Plate Skyline) ,Layout/Schematic

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#183 5th Generation EL-34's (High Plate Skyline) ,Layout/Schematic

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A 5th generation #183 ODS with mid switch - 3 piece chassis,(wooden sides high plate no LNFB V1 Skyliner w/different script

Also a big thank you to Shad/ Quinn amps for all his help with the layout..without it it would not be possible..
Also Thanks to Jaysg for the attached Schematic

Good Luck with the builds everyone!!

WARNING!!..Before you do the build please make sure you have the latest version of the layout...Good Luck!!

Tony
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Thanks Tony and Shad I appreciate your efforts.

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Thank you, Tony/Shad.
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Thanks Tony/Shad, Happy Thanksgiving Weekend--
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There's a schematic in this mess, isn't there? (I'm nowhere near my main PC, so I can't find anything I've saved.)
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Thanks much for all the work!!

I find it odd that the Treble control is audio taper, and the bass and mid controls are linear...Backwards from convention methinks.
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Thanks again for the excellent work, Tony.
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Hey, what would you say the average build cost is on a Dumble style amp? :)
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wescaster wrote:Hey, what would you say the average build cost is on a Dumble style amp? :)
Now lets see.....

Material cost: the simple answer is cost of materials, which is around 500-1000 USD, depending on component quality,shipping cost and local customs/taxing costs. Which is not even the price of a quality guitar.

Cost of labour
/opportunity cost - if you put a price on your own time spend on sourcing the parts and building the amp, you must factor in 50-100 hours work at an hourly rate of 8.25 USD/Hour (minimum wage) up to 100 USD/Hour (professional)
Minimum wage, calculation:
if you are working at a fast pace, your price will be 8.25*50 = 412.5 USD and 8.25*100 = 825 USD, working at a slow pace
Professional salary, calculation: If you are working at a fast pace, your price will be 100*50 = 5000 USD and 100*100 = 10,000 USD, if you are working at a slow pace

=> Total cost = material (500-1,000) + Labour (415.5-10,000) = 915.4 - 11,000

Therefore, you should only build a Dumble amp if you are a skillfull builder, earning a relatively low wage all other people should much rather buy a Redplate, Bludo, VVT, Glaswerks or Fuchs.... Its much cheaper in the long run. :wink:
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To Wescaster,

Mt. Vernon, eh?

I had to look that up on a map.

I knew there was a Mt. Vernon Washington.

So your over by John Day?

Love the country around there. :D
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Mt.Vernon.. Yep. I think just about every state has a Mt.Vernon. This Mt. Vernon is so small the street lights dim when I get an email :wink: And yes, eight miles from John Day.

I'm building my first amp right now (Weber Vibrolux Reverb kit 6a20 HP)

I'm at the completed stage where you look at it and wonder why it is not working.

Anyway, the Dumble style layout and schematics look easier than what I've been through.
Don't get me wrong, I've been enjoying myself and learning as I go.
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Well, you've come to the right place if you run into trouble or just want to chat about amps.

Have fun!
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So, where are you in Oregon Tom? Love the picture of the kid sticking the knife in the outlet. You were that kid too huh? :shock:
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is the pab relay wiring layout correct with the schematics?!? I notice some difference!
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Re: #183 5th Generation ODS Skyliner. Layout/Schematic

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If you guy's see a discrepancy please try to help out and point them out...Thank You!

Tony
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