#189 50W Bluesmaster(Ripper?) Photos

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Re: #189 50W Bluesmaster(Ripper?) Photos

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glasman wrote:
Duble wrote:
glasman wrote:Anyone catch the value of the V2 grid resistors? 27K ? Had to tell.
Looks like 68k/150R no?

I was referring to this picture. I don't see a 68K, looks like a 3?K or 2?k

But it might be a 68/150K pair, went back and took a second look.

http://ampgarage.com/forum/download/file.php?id=40819
Those are six-band Roederstein MK3, 1/2W, 1%, 50ppm metal-film resistors:

blue-grey-brown-red-brown-red= 68.1K

brown-green-black-black-brown-red= 150 Ohms

There is definitely not an orange band in that 150 Ohm resistor. Check the pic of the 150R resistors from the Dumble Champ further up on page 4 of this thread.
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Re: #189 50W Bluesmaster(Ripper?) Photos

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I've tried out a version of this, with good results.

Anybody have any idea of what the overdrive input network might be? I've tried the circuit below, but its not as dynamic, or gainy as I'd hoped. This is what I used, but it's only my best guess:

Clean
V1a 33k, V1b 220k/500p Grids
120k/150k Plates (210v/190v)
1.8k/5uF, 2.2k/5uF Cathodes
100k Slope
.02uF Mid, .02uF Bass, .0022uF Treble,
250k trimmer to Ground off Bass/Treble pots for Boost adjustment

Overdrive
Parallel 470k/50pF > 120k > 500kA Drive pot > 68k Grid
100k Plate > 150R > V2b CF grid
1uF/820R Cathode
250kM, 50kT, 1MB, 33k Slope (Plexi Stack)
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Re: #189 50W Bluesmaster(Ripper?) Photos

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Duble wrote:I've tried out a version of this, with good results.

Anybody have any idea of what the overdrive input network might be? I've tried the circuit below, but its not as dynamic, or gainy as I'd hoped. This is what I used, but it's only my best guess:

Clean
V1a 33k, V1b 220k/500p Grids
120k/150k Plates (210v/190v)
1.8k/5uF, 2.2k/5uF Cathodes
100k Slope
.02uF Mid, .02uF Bass, .0022uF Treble,
250k trimmer to Ground off Bass/Treble pots for Boost adjustment

Overdrive
Parallel 470k/50pF > 120k > 500kA Drive pot > 68k Grid
100k Plate > 150R > V2b CF grid
1uF/820R Cathode
250kM, 50kT, 1MB, 33k Slope (Plexi Stack)

Try a 470K//47pf > 180K > 25K trimmer > 68K grid. With the trimmer about 50%.
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Re: #189 50W Bluesmaster(Ripper?) Photos

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glasman wrote:
Duble wrote:I've tried out a version of this, with good results.

Anybody have any idea of what the overdrive input network might be? I've tried the circuit below, but its not as dynamic, or gainy as I'd hoped. This is what I used, but it's only my best guess:

Clean
V1a 33k, V1b 220k/500p Grids
120k/150k Plates (210v/190v)
1.8k/5uF, 2.2k/5uF Cathodes
100k Slope
.02uF Mid, .02uF Bass, .0022uF Treble,
250k trimmer to Ground off Bass/Treble pots for Boost adjustment

Overdrive
Parallel 470k/50pF > 120k > 500kA Drive pot > 68k Grid
100k Plate > 150R > V2b CF grid
1uF/820R Cathode
250kM, 50kT, 1MB, 33k Slope (Plexi Stack)

Try a 470K//47pf > 180K > 25K trimmer > 68K grid. With the trimmer about 50%.
Using the 25kL pot for the Drive ? My assumption was that the Ripper's Drive control was somehow part of the "pre grid" circuit for V2a no?
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Duble wrote:
glasman wrote:
Duble wrote:I've tried out a version of this, with good results.

Anybody have any idea of what the overdrive input network might be? I've tried the circuit below, but its not as dynamic, or gainy as I'd hoped. This is what I used, but it's only my best guess:

Clean
V1a 33k, V1b 220k/500p Grids
120k/150k Plates (210v/190v)
1.8k/5uF, 2.2k/5uF Cathodes
100k Slope
.02uF Mid, .02uF Bass, .0022uF Treble,
250k trimmer to Ground off Bass/Treble pots for Boost adjustment

Overdrive
Parallel 470k/50pF > 120k > 500kA Drive pot > 68k Grid
100k Plate > 150R > V2b CF grid
1uF/820R Cathode
250kM, 50kT, 1MB, 33k Slope (Plexi Stack)

Try a 470K//47pf > 180K > 25K trimmer > 68K grid. With the trimmer about 50%.
Using the 25kL pot for the Drive ? My assumption was that the Ripper's Drive control was somehow part of the "pre grid" circuit for V2a no?
Have to look in my schematics, I think I drew up the ripper a few years ago.

If I can find it I will post it.
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Here is the schematic I made based on an informed builder in SoCal.

The 500K drive control is on the front panel. This is the only thing I have on it.



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Didn't draw the complete power amp, but as I remember it was the same as a blues master PA.

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glasman wrote:Here is the schematic I made based on an informed builder in SoCal.

The 500K drive control is on the front panel. This is the only thing I have on it.

Gary
Fantastic!! Thanks for sharing Gary, much appreciated. I owe you a beer (or a case :) ) Cheerz!~

The inductor is interesting, is this to effect the pot loading on the drive control?
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Duble wrote:
glasman wrote:Here is the schematic I made based on an informed builder in SoCal.

The 500K drive control is on the front panel. This is the only thing I have on it.

Gary
Fantastic!! Thanks for sharing Gary, much appreciated. I owe you a beer (or a case :) ) Cheerz!~

The inductor is interesting, is this to effect the pot loading on the drive control?
Disregard the inductor, I guess in the amp that was evaluated there was a small coil before the input resistor, I think this was Alexander's way of having some fun. He was known to do this a lot in various amps.

An air formed coil is normally only used in RF applications.
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Re: #189 50W Bluesmaster(Ripper?) Photos

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glasman wrote:
Duble wrote:
glasman wrote:Here is the schematic I made based on an informed builder in SoCal.

The 500K drive control is on the front panel. This is the only thing I have on it.

Gary
Fantastic!! Thanks for sharing Gary, much appreciated. I owe you a beer (or a case :) ) Cheerz!~

The inductor is interesting, is this to effect the pot loading on the drive control?
Disregard the inductor, I guess in the amp that was evaluated there was a small coil before the input resistor, I think this was Alexander's way of having some fun. He was known to do this a lot in various amps.

An air formed coil is normally only used in RF applications.
Yeah, big-time thanks for the schem Gary!

So that's how an ODS gets an "airy tone"... an inductor from a flying fortress, no less!

Some of the things I find interesting: 22uF cathode bypass caps, R10 270K, 100K lift.
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Re: #189 50W Bluesmaster(Ripper?) Photos

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Thanks Gary! You wouldn't happen to have the layout would you? I always read that Carltons amplifier was a Megaplex? But, I am pretty sure his amp has 6l6s in it ? I wonder what amplifier type his black 90s amp was ? I believe that was his number one? He also had his tan ? I always loved his 90s tone the best!
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