AC "convenience" jack...where can I get one

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Here is another source for the square type.

http://www.electronicsurplus.com/Item/1 ... 0-%200710/


Amphenol 160-2N available here
http://www.electronicplus.com/prodSearc ... mit=Search
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Yes, square snap-in types are available. But as others have noted, the traditional round plugs seem to have disappeared. The McMaster-Carr plug was the only one I found with a quick search through my usual sources and it is all plastic, not the style with a metal mounting ring.
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I placed an order from the source noted for 4 amphenol plugs.

Amphenol 160-2N available here
http://www.electronicplus.com/prodSearc ... mit=Search
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Well done! Sorry I overlooked the second link in your prior post. That was one of the places I checked, but I failed to find that plug. It's the real deal. Still amazingly expensive!
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IEC-type chassis outlets should be readily available from all the major suppliers like Mouser,Digikey, Allied etc.....
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Just saw this thread and I have stock on both the 160-2N
amphenol/Fender Nos sockets and the square ones too...
These are not listed on the website...

Steve @ Apex Jr.

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Steve I don't see Amphenol or Cooper AC receptacles on your website at all and had looked for these before on your site.

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Mark....
That's why I posted this 2:47 Video of my warehouse on the website
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6DNTYm7kWA
Not everything I have is on the website, mostly items in larger
quantities. The 160-2N I only have about 6-7 in stock the square
ones less than 100...

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M Fowler wrote:Steve, EDIT no longer available from cooper either I will ask the local cooper sales guy tomorrow.


http://www.newark.com/cooper-interconne ... dp/39F1230

Mark
Is this maybe why these are unobtainium ?

"RoHS Compliance: No"

I've also noticed that one of the Fender "repop" chassis sellers provides a blockoff plate to cover the hole in the chassis where the rear outlet goes.

Incandescent light bulbs are now on the endangered list, tubes next ?

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The helical light bulbs are on the endangered list at my house, those noisy suckers. :)
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OK so now that I have a grounded AC convenience outlet what's the best way to wire it in based on modern practices since back when Fender was doing it they used the ground switch and death cap, etc? This is for a Princeton build of mine so it's a Fender topology.

Isn't the best way to wire AC into the amp, black (live) goes straight to fuse, then power switch then transformer and white goes to transformer? I guess my question is does the AC outlet go before or after the fuse?

Any thoughts?

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Structo posted some good info.
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M Fowler wrote:Structo posted some good info.
Mark, yes thanks I saw that. In the picture it's wired to the AC outlet first then to the fuse, I was wondering if it should go to the fuse first then back to the outlet since black should go straight to the fuse. Wired this way it seems to me that if the amp fuse blows the AC outlet will still be live, is this correct? Maybe it doesn't really make a difference. I was just wondering if one way is better than the other.

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I would wire the AC outlet directly to the AC source then onto the internal amp circuit like what is shown in those layouts.

Protection for the amp not the equipment plugged into the AC outlet.

On a custom project a guy could fuse or use circuit breaker for the AC outlet plus use fuse protection for the amp circuit.
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M Fowler wrote:Structo posted some good info.
[img:400:191]http://ampgarage.com/forum/files/thumbs ... on_239.jpg[/img]
Just to clarify for safety -
Make sure the black-to-brass and white to silver(plain) connections are followed.
You can verify with an ohmmeter that your line connection (narrow spade) on the plug goes to the line connection on the outlet socket.
Likewise the wide neutrals should correspond.

Line = black wire, brass screw, narrow spade
Neutral = white wire, silver screw, wide spade
Ground = green wire, green or grey screw, round or U pin

Maintain these for shock hazard and noise reasons.

Also, the chassis ground should have it's own screw and not share with the transformer mounting, if possible.
Yeah Yeah, I know lots of amps violate this safety code but if you're redoing an older chassis it should be easy enough to update to the modern safety codes.

Apologies to all who already know this stuff but SAFETY FIRST

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