Cascading channels in tweed amp
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Cascading channels in tweed amp
How would one go about cascading the channels on a 5e4a
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Re: Cascading channels in tweed amp
Check out Hoffman's 18W Stout project here:
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The switch that puts V1a and V1b in series can also be configured as a relay for remote activation.
Good luck!
Dave O.
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The switch that puts V1a and V1b in series can also be configured as a relay for remote activation.
Good luck!
Dave O.
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Here's the simplest way I can come up with... Layout included. One wire on the schematic turns into several on the layout. This is untested, of course, so procede at your own risk!
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Re: Cascading channels in tweed amp
Will that work with the shared cathode? Since the signals into the two triodes will be out of phase...
I've done a 5E3 into a cathode biased Princeton like amp and used separate cathodes and a 'normal' wired volume control. It ended up either needing NFB like a Princeton or much smaller coupling caps (0.022uf and 0.01uf's).
I've done a 5E3 into a cathode biased Princeton like amp and used separate cathodes and a 'normal' wired volume control. It ended up either needing NFB like a Princeton or much smaller coupling caps (0.022uf and 0.01uf's).
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As long as the cathode resistor is bypassed it shouldn't be a problem.rock_mumbles wrote:Will that work with the shared cathode? Since the signals into the two triodes will be out of phase...
Re: Cascading channels in tweed amp
Here's another switch option. You might need to tweak a bit to get both options sounding how you like.
[IMG:470:432]http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv78/dvnator/Amp%20Stuff/5e3cascadeswitch-schem.jpg[/img]
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Re: Cascading channels in tweed amp
Here's a couple of ideas
Simple single/parallel V1 using input jack tip switches (no extra switches required on chassis) - but this won't do cascading stages. I built several amps with this arrangement and I find it very versatile.
[img:369:494]http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5338/8843 ... c7c8_o.png[/img]
More complicated with a DPDT switch required, but does do cascaded, single, or parallel inputs. (I haven't tested this idea yet myself)
[img:770:414]http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5451/8843 ... 677e_o.png[/img]
Simple single/parallel V1 using input jack tip switches (no extra switches required on chassis) - but this won't do cascading stages. I built several amps with this arrangement and I find it very versatile.
[img:369:494]http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5338/8843 ... c7c8_o.png[/img]
More complicated with a DPDT switch required, but does do cascaded, single, or parallel inputs. (I haven't tested this idea yet myself)
[img:770:414]http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5451/8843 ... 677e_o.png[/img]
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Re: Cascading channels in tweed amp
True enough, but since the signals will be at significantly different magnitudes, you might want to split the cathodes to experiment with different bias points, bypassed/unbypassed, etc.martin manning wrote:As long as the cathode resistor is bypassed it shouldn't be a problem.rock_mumbles wrote:Will that work with the shared cathode? Since the signals into the two triodes will be out of phase...
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Re: Cascading channels in tweed amp
I was going for dirt-simple, and preserving as much of the existing circuit as possible. My first thought was that you could just do it like the inputs on a Marshall 2204, but then the KISS took over.
Re: Cascading channels in tweed amp
I guess I should have elaborated in my original post. I thinking about building a 5e4a tweed super ( I know the original post said 5e3, my f up) where channel one cascades into channel two, but channel two is completely operational as a stand alone low gain input. I am trying to maintain as much of the original circuit as possible. My original thought was a single input jack with relay switching to access the two channels.
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Elaborated!? This is a completely different question!jon wrote:I guess I should have elaborated in my original post. I thinking about building a 5e4a tweed super ( I know the original post said 5e3, my f up) where channel one cascades into channel two, but channel two is completely operational as a stand alone low gain input. I am trying to maintain as much of the original circuit as possible. My original thought was a single input jack with relay switching to access the two channels.
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Re: Cascading channels in tweed amp
Move one of each channels 68k inputs to ground. Swap a pair of resistors to split the signal on channel A with one to ground and the other attached at the junction of channel B's 68k input pair. It might be something like 470k/180k up to 50% ratio without squealing wheelies.
Now when you plug into A you get gain, and B is normal. You can use the switching jack to ground A's signal there when in B if you look close.
B is the only gain/volume control now. You might need a master.. (hint hint)
I hope I didn't make sense, again.
Now when you plug into A you get gain, and B is normal. You can use the switching jack to ground A's signal there when in B if you look close.
B is the only gain/volume control now. You might need a master.. (hint hint)
I hope I didn't make sense, again.
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Re: Cascading channels in tweed amp
Just build this SK-Super Delux see schematic.
The last 5e3 I built I went with single input and master volume like what Mission amps does.
The last 5e3 I built I went with single input and master volume like what Mission amps does.
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Pretty cool M Fowler
How does the dual pot with the presence and master on the same shaft work?
Regards
Randy
How does the dual pot with the presence and master on the same shaft work?
Regards
Randy
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See my email link send me a message and I can send the layout to you.RB wrote:Pretty cool M Fowler
How does the dual pot with the presence and master on the same shaft work?
Regards
Randy
Mark