Mixing Channels with Virtual Earth?

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Mr. Lime
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Mixing Channels with Virtual Earth?

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Thinking about different ways to blend clean and dirty channels I'm wondering if a virtual earth summing triode is an good option?
The gain stage with local feedback could serve as a cathode follower /FX Loop send.
Problem could be the tone stack of the dirty channel but it also could pad the signal down near to the level of the clean channel.
Am I on the right tracks with the mixing resistors or what else is to consider?

Thanks a lot!
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Re: Mixing Channels with Virtual Earth?

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Virtually the 470k resistors are high enough to isolate the two circuits from each other, but I think that the tonestack of the upper circuit will also act in the other channel, maybe just a little bit but can be subtle and annoying.
The best solution is to buffer the upper channel.

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luix wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:19 pm Virtually the 470k resistors are high enough to isolate the two circuits from each other, but I think that the tonestack of the upper circuit will also act in the other channel, maybe just a little bit but can be subtle and annoying.
The best solution is to buffer the upper channel.

The only way to be sure is trying it :D
That may well happen with a regular passive mixer.
But surely the virtual earth would act to eliminate that? That’s kinda its raison d’etre :)
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You could reconfigure as an anode mixer.
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An anode mixer would cause phase issues and the low output impedance woulf be gone.

I‘m more after a cathode follower with double function..
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Re: Mixing Channels with Virtual Earth?

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TUBEDUDE wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:36 am You could reconfigure as an anode mixer.
This is a good idea, unless you have arranged the circuit in that way for some "sound" related reason, the anode mixer will be a better solution, I've successfully used with JFET transistors and I think that also with tubes will work.
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Re: Mixing Channels with Virtual Earth?

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I once tried an anode mixer and it didn't worked for me. I married a two stage with a four stage channel in front of a shared tone stack but I had squealing problems.
Anyway, an anode mixer isn't an option here and not of my interest.
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