Strange loop hum

General discussion area for tube amps.

Moderators: pompeiisneaks, Colossal

Post Reply
Guitarxtc
Posts: 27
Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2021 6:54 pm

Strange loop hum

Post by Guitarxtc »

I tried in one of my builds Merlin/Engl 12ax7 fx loop and i have loud hum only if i just plug guitar direct in return jack ,guitar volume at 0= zero hum ,from 1-9 loud hum ,on 10 hum is half loud. with delay,chorus,reverb in loop... no hum.
I changed tubes,tried new cable,guitars,new loop jacks,solder... Never heard this on other amps,i have no idea any more what to try.
maxkracht
Posts: 595
Joined: Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:18 pm
Location: Iowa, USA

Re: Strange loop hum

Post by maxkracht »

Sounds like you have a grounding problem. Do you have a schematic or pictures of the loop?
pdf64
Posts: 2702
Joined: Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:23 pm
Location: Staffordshire, UK

Re: Strange loop hum

Post by pdf64 »

Have you checked for oscillation?
Stevem
Posts: 4576
Joined: Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:01 pm
Location: 1/3rd the way out one of the arms of the Milkyway.

Re: Strange loop hum

Post by Stevem »

Are you ever actually going to play the amp like that, I would think not.

If you jump between the send and receive with a cable and there's no hum issue then call it good.
When I die, I want to go like my Grandfather did, peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming like the passengers in his car!😊

Cutting out a man's tongue does not mean he’s a liar, but it does show that you fear the truth he might speak about you!
Guitarxtc
Posts: 27
Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2021 6:54 pm

Re: Strange loop hum

Post by Guitarxtc »

pdf64 wrote: Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:27 am Have you checked for oscillation?
Is a 194HZ hum, i will try to use other tube position and rewire for fx loop ,that tube was for clean channel
Guitarxtc
Posts: 27
Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2021 6:54 pm

Re: Strange loop hum

Post by Guitarxtc »

Stevem wrote: Thu Feb 08, 2024 10:57 am Are you ever actually going to play the amp like that, I would think not.

If you jump between the send and receive with a cable and there's no hum issue then call it good.

Probably i will not play like that, but i can't sleep if i don't resolve this :mrgreen:
User avatar
bepone
Posts: 1583
Joined: Mon Mar 09, 2009 4:22 pm
Location: croatia
Contact:

Re: Strange loop hum

Post by bepone »

Guitarxtc wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 11:36 pm I tried in one of my builds Merlin/Engl 12ax7 fx loop and i have loud hum only if i just plug guitar direct in return jack ,guitar volume at 0= zero hum ,from 1-9 loud hum ,on 10 hum is half loud. with delay,chorus,reverb in loop... no hum.
I changed tubes,tried new cable,guitars,new loop jacks,solder... Never heard this on other amps,i have no idea any more what to try.
You are not posting any valuable info.. schematic, what did you connect and where , voltages.. which amp. Very basic description of the problem.
What i can see, 100% this is not normal
Post Reply