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Someone got this completed champ kit in a trade and asked me to rebuild. Can't remember if he said it was intermittent or didn't work at all. Didn't bother plugging it in before taking it apart. I think Weber was playing a dirty trick...
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Not sure what you're pointing out...but that's a chewed up bit of kit!
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I doubt Weber is responsible for that mess!
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xtian wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 3:31 am Not sure what you're pointing out...but that's a chewed up bit of kit!
I believe he's pointing out that the brass plate still had the protective plastic on it. :lol: Their chassis are polished stainless, so they might have connected to ground through the jacks, but I could see there being some intermittent issues, for sure.
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johnnyreece wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 12:06 pm
xtian wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 3:31 am Not sure what you're pointing out...but that's a chewed up bit of kit!
I believe he's pointing out that the brass plate still had the protective plastic on it. :lol: Their chassis are polished stainless, so they might have connected to ground through the jacks, but I could see there being some intermittent issues, for sure.
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I don’t see how that’s the supplier’s fault though?
Rather it’s to their credit that the contacting surface was kept shiny and oxide free prior to assembly.
If the builder doesn’t understand that kinda thing it seems questionable whether they’re competent to be building mains powered equipment.
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pdf64 wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 12:39 pm I don’t see how that’s the supplier’s fault though?
Sorry, OP said Weber might be messing with them; I was simply giving a suggestion about what I believed OP was pointing out. No blame assignment on my end. 8)
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Plastic might have been there to prevent oxidation prior to assembly, so operator error....novice omission.
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I thought the plastic was funny... I don't really blame Weber, but I have heard lots of complaints from first or second time builders who think "kit" means there will be instructions or all of the pieces will fit without modification. A printed FAQ attached to the layout would probably save lots of headaches, though I don't know if I would think to mention removing the cling film from the brass. I guess it would have been mostly fine if every ground went to that plate...
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Yeah, their website has undergone several changes over the years. It used to make it extremely obvious that there was minimal information, and a link to their forum (which doesn't seem to exist anymore, sadly). Here's what their kit-building landing page used to be:
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OMG. I see it now. LOL.
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Cling film removed, slightly less chaotic wiring job, sounds like a champ.
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Great, and now NFB switch and Tone-stack bypass :shock: :)
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Nice work, Max!
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Colossal wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:30 am Nice work, Max!
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angelodp wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 10:47 pm Great, and now NFB switch and Tone-stack bypass :shock: :)
Thought about the nfb switch, no tone stack to bypass on the 5f1 chassis. I did put in a hidden second gain stage cathode bypass switch on the second input using a trs jack. Can also use a foot switch this way if desired.
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angelodp wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 10:47 pm Great, and now NFB switch and Tone-stack bypass :shock: :)
Tone stack??
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