List of fuses for vintage Fender amps * Good/Bad Fuse Mfgs?

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List of fuses for vintage Fender amps * Good/Bad Fuse Mfgs?

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Anybody!!! A good source?

Is there a chart "link" as per which blow fuses or slow blow fuses
each 1950s-1980s Fender amp uses?

Your favorite fuses?

Maybe a retain store/online shop/manufacturer that has a list
where I can buy a lot for a variety of amps?

BTW, are there quality issues from one fuse mfg to another fuse mft?
Some brands are better/more reliable than other brands?
What have you experienced?


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I'll admit to being a cork sniffer but even I don't smell the fuses. Except to treat them with deoxit.
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billyz wrote:I'll admit to being a cork sniffer but even I don't smell the fuses. Except to treat them with deoxit.
Thought I'd get a couple of spare fuses for each amp, to procure
a larger bundle order discount. Know a good source for fuses?

Thanks.
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I get most of mine from CE Distribution. I think the retail leg is Tubes and more or Antique Radio supply. You can order from Digikey or Mouser as well. Maybe Mojo and or Allparts. Oh yeah Radio shack or Fry's .
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billyz wrote:I get most of mine from CE Distribution. I think the retail leg is Tubes and more or Antique Radio supply. You can order from Digikey or Mouser as well. Maybe Mojo and or Allparts. Oh yeah Radio shack or Fry's .

Thanks. I have an account with Tube/More and Antique/Radio and MojoTone.
Will give Digikey, Mouser & Allparts a try.
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You can buy them on Amazon or directly from Parts Express also.

Make sure they are Slow-blow, not Fast-blow.

Some amps use Fast-blows on the high tension circuit, usually half amps (.5 amps or 500 milliamps).

Brand is "Littelfuse", have used them, have no issues.

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alvarezh wrote:You can buy them on Amazon or directly from Parts Express also. Make sure they are Slow-blow, not Fast-blow. Some amps use Fast-blows on the high tension circuit, usually half amps (.5 amps or 500 milliamps). Brand is "Littelfuse", have used them, have no issues. All the best.

Thanks much, Alvarezh!
Good to know a source and to ask for "Slow-Blow".

Like speakers, potentiometers, trannys and chokes,
I was hoping for a "fuse chart" for each amp?
Does Fender or any supplier post one?
I have many 1950s-1960s amps and some of the fuses are hard to identify.

Is a vintage Fender amp fuse list "link" out there?
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I rarely use any size other then 2 Amp slow blow LittleFuse brand.

Or when my supply runs out I get 2 Amp delay fuses at the hardware store.

One of the regular suppliers on line has a variety fuse kit, can't remember if it was CED or mojo?
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Have not seen a published list but, look in the Fender site, choose your model and download the schematic:

http://www.fender.com/en-DO/support/art ... schematics

The fuse between the wall plug and connected (it's only on one wire) to the power transformer is the one you are looking for.

Most of them use 2 to 3 amps. There are some exceptions.

Make sure you are looking at the 110 vac mains fuse specs. The 220 vac mains fuse specs are most of the time posted also (in the same schematic). The fuses for 220 vac are half the value of the 110 vac ones.

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alvarezh wrote:Have not seen a published list but, look in the Fender site, choose your model and download the schematic:
http://www.fender.com/en-DO/support/art ... schematics
The fuse between the wall plug and connected (it's only on one wire) to the power transformer is the one you are looking for. Most of them use 2 to 3 amps. There are some exceptions. Make sure you are looking at the 110 vac mains fuse specs. The 220 vac mains fuse specs are most of the time posted also (in the same schematic). The fuses for 220 vac are half the value of the 110 vac ones. All the best.

Thanks. That Fender "link" is for current modern amps.
But, I sent a request in to Fender for vintage amp fuse specs.
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There is no difference in consumption between a 1964 BF Deluxe Reverb and a modern Re-Issue, but if you want the "real deal", there are a bunch here:

http://ampwares.com/

Interesting site!
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alvarezh wrote:There is no difference in consumption between a 1964 BF Deluxe Reverb and a modern Re-Issue, but if you want the "real deal", there are a bunch here: http://ampwares.com/ Interesting site!
Alvarezh! OUT-FREAKING STANDING!!!!!!!!!!
I get on Ampwares easy once a week. But didn't even think of that site.

(4A) = 1983 Twin Reverb II 105w Amp Head
(2½A) = 1964 2x12 Twin Reverb 85w Combo Amp
(2A) = 1964 2x10 Super Reverb 40w Combo Amp
(3A) = 1954 5D6 4x10 Bassman 40w Combo Amp
(2½A) = 1968 Dual Showman Reverb TFL5000D 100w Amp Head
(3A) = 1960 6G4 2x10 Super Amp 40w Combo Amp
(2 1/2A) = 1983 1x12 Concert II 60w Combo Amp
(¾A) = 1962 Fender Reverb Tank Unit (anybody know output wattage)
(2A) = 1968 Bandmaster Reverb TFL5005D 40w Amp Head
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Quite a collection there Topp!

The Fender "Stand Alone Reverb" unit is not an amplifier, so no output wattage there.

Now,allow me to explain something: Tube Amplifiers (and many other devices like transmitters) -but lets concentrate on tube amps- have at least three (that I know of)measurements that are taken in Watts. You have the amps complete power consumption in Watts. On the Fenders, they have them printed close to the fuse socket (not all have them BTW) . Your Twin Reverb II should be close to 300 Watts of power consumption. Then you have output power (or energy output) of the amp. Again, using the above mentioned Twin as an example, it is, as you have stated, 105 Watts. The third measurement taken in Watts is your tube dissipation. This is the energy released by the tube's elements, mainly the plate.

If you knew this then please accept my apologies!

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I've heard that Littlefuse is a good manufacturer, but nothing new. Only the old stuff made in the 50s and 60s. Chinese and Indian fuses, old and new, have too many impurites, are not oxygen free and do not have an aligned crystal lattice. These are especially bad if you are using a 12GA power cord with an aligned crystal lattice. It's much better to have no alignment at all in your system rather than have mixed alignment. Same goes for oxygen free and oxygen full. This causes noise in your system due to boundary condition discontinuities that occur as the electrons transition the lattice boundary and impinge upon the first microns of the unaligned lattice via drift. I think there are some papers written on this somewhere on the interwebs. If you are really stuck using product from inferior manufacturers, then carefully and completely wrap your fuse with the foil from a stick of Juicy Fruit. I've used this technique with good results when I've been stuck. Juciy Fruit is my desert island foil for sure. Plus it gives me an excuse to buy that tooth rotting, sugary confection.
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What about cryo treatments? I have heard cryo treated fuses compared to NOS in several tests, the cryos always win.

Thanks for the gum wrapper tip. Would the spearmint flavor work as well? I would constantly run out of the juicy fruit.
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