G Major + D'Lator unity gain...
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G Major + D'Lator unity gain...
I use my G Major with my Redplate loop, and I think it sounds great, but I have always wondered about the the optimal settings for the Input and Output level controls on the G Major.
My preferred settings right now are to set the amp's master volume at about 4-5 and the loop send at unity. The G Major's input is set about 3/4 full to at this point and I don't get much input clipping on the display. I use the loop return as my new master.
Just wondering if you G Major users have any "optimal" settings.
Thanks!
Mark
My preferred settings right now are to set the amp's master volume at about 4-5 and the loop send at unity. The G Major's input is set about 3/4 full to at this point and I don't get much input clipping on the display. I use the loop return as my new master.
Just wondering if you G Major users have any "optimal" settings.
Thanks!
Mark
"- Yeah, can we have everything louder than everything else? Right!"- Ian Gillan
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Yeah, set it kill dry and run it in parallel with a Suhr MiniMix II. The difference is ASTOUNDING. The TC absolutely ruins the tone, no joke.
I run a TC Gmajor 2 and a Suhr MiniMix in my small 3 space rack. What an amazing night and day difference. You won't regret it.
I run a TC Gmajor 2 and a Suhr MiniMix in my small 3 space rack. What an amazing night and day difference. You won't regret it.
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Agree with Scott here 110%. Spend some money on a transparent parallel loop to go with your d'lator - it's the the living end! You can put nearly any device there then with no worries. Spending all that time tweaking your amp to leave it at the mercy of inexpensive digital conversion is for the birds. I am sure it sounds great now - even greater after. By many magnitudes.
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'Nuff said, I'm on the hunt for a Suhr Mini Mix.
Thank you gentlemen
Mark
Thank you gentlemen
Mark
"- Yeah, can we have everything louder than everything else? Right!"- Ian Gillan
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So you have to use the Dumblator and the Suhr device?
Why not just make the Dumbleator a parallel loop?
And Scott, when you say "ruins the tone" is that meaning it is good to the tone? Like saying something is sick?
I must be getting old, I'm not up on all the slang!
Why not just make the Dumbleator a parallel loop?
And Scott, when you say "ruins the tone" is that meaning it is good to the tone? Like saying something is sick?
I must be getting old, I'm not up on all the slang!
Tom
Don't let that smoke out!
Don't let that smoke out!
Re: G Major + D'Lator unity gain...
Nah... The TC sounds like nasty elephant ass. It destroys (in a really bad way) the dynamics and organicness of the analog tone. It has horrid conversion. To make matters worse, if you set the input gain on it to handle the clean channel, it is way too low on the OD, further exacerbating the tone suck of the converters.
On my small rack I use the Suhr MiniMix and TC G-Major 2, and Glaswerks Matchbox.
On my big rack I have the Sound Sculpture Switchblade and Loopalator. The Switchblade is an 8X8 midi controlled routing matrix. I can program both parallel and series at any time! I have the 2290 and Eclipse in that rack.
On my small rack I use the Suhr MiniMix and TC G-Major 2, and Glaswerks Matchbox.
On my big rack I have the Sound Sculpture Switchblade and Loopalator. The Switchblade is an 8X8 midi controlled routing matrix. I can program both parallel and series at any time! I have the 2290 and Eclipse in that rack.
Structo wrote:So you have to use the Dumblator and the Suhr device?
Why not just make the Dumbleator a parallel loop?
And Scott, when you say "ruins the tone" is that meaning it is good to the tone? Like saying something is sick?
I must be getting old, I'm not up on all the slang!
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The TC Electronics new mascot..
I hope the patch on his jeans holds
Tony.
I hope the patch on his jeans holds
Tony.
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Re: G Major + D'Lator unity gain...
OK, so I take it they made improvements on their later gear?
Tom
Don't let that smoke out!
Don't let that smoke out!
Re: G Major + D'Lator unity gain...
dang double
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"- Yeah, can we have everything louder than everything else? Right!"- Ian Gillan
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Yes, that's one thing I did not like about it.To make matters worse, if you set the input gain on it to handle the clean channel, it is way too low on the OD, further exacerbating the tone suck of the converters.
Scott, I think I have a good line a gently used MiniMix II. I'm sure I'll have a question or two about when I get it!
Mark
"- Yeah, can we have everything louder than everything else? Right!"- Ian Gillan
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Dunno Tom, I guess I just want to keep the D'lator the way it was designed. Plus Henry's loop is built into a compact chassis (not rack) and things are tight in there already!Structo wrote:So you have to use the Dumblator and the Suhr device?
Why not just make the Dumbleator a parallel loop?
Mark
"- Yeah, can we have everything louder than everything else? Right!"- Ian Gillan
Re: G Major + D'Lator unity gain...
It was much easier for me to buy a device. I am sure where there is a will - there is a way. As long as the creamy goodness of the d'lated tone is sent to the effect front end - then paralleled back.
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I bought a Rocktron Xpression for that reason. It has an internal mixer. The dry signal stays analog. Only the wet signal goes throught the A/D converter.
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Me too . Also have an Intelifex at the recommendation of Gil Ayan.Steven_nl wrote:I bought a Rocktron Xpression for that reason. It has an internal mixer. The dry signal stays analog. Only the wet signal goes throught the A/D converter.
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aka K0GWA, K0 Glas Werks Amplification
www.glaswerks.com
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That's the way every mfgr should do delays & verbs. Are all Rocktron multi effects like this - and do you like the verbs and tape delays provided? And is the Intellifex a legacy product? I don't see info on their site. Thanks
I'm digging my setup because I can use anything I have at home in there now. Lexicons, DL4, stomp boxes, etc.. Before, I always ran the amp dry and sent the dumbleator out to effects & a satellite. Less is more.
I'm digging my setup because I can use anything I have at home in there now. Lexicons, DL4, stomp boxes, etc.. Before, I always ran the amp dry and sent the dumbleator out to effects & a satellite. Less is more.