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Attempted Simplification of the Express - Non Traditional
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Miket



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I am also interested in this. Seems like a good start for a first trainwreck build
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M Fowler



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes the PCB to me was very simple to build and sounded good on first fire-up.

We will have to wait and see what rj wants to do regarding offering at least the boards.

Mark
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RonnieJ



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

M Fowler wrote:
Yes the PCB to me was very simple to build and sounded good on first fire-up.

We will have to wait and see what rj wants to do regarding offering at least the boards.

Mark


Are there instructions or at least a layout included with the pcb version from RJ ?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's being worked on over here ...
http://ampgarage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18831
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Koop



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In these photos I see what appears to be the 1k 25 watt resistor mounted to the chassis with screws. The only 1k 25W I have is a cement type, no metal housing or any way to fasten to the chassis. What is the best way to install this in the revised PCB build?
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M Fowler



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Koop either get the metal base 1k/25w resistor or make a small eyelet or turret board and place the board on the right side of your output jacks in that bare space on the back panel.

See the red board in my 18w amp.
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Koop



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Mark, I'll rig up something similar.
EDIT - I decided to order aluminum housed resitors from Digi-Key since I could use a couple of other items as well. My $11 order will probably cost $20 by the time it ships!
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dorrisant



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a little update...

After a few months of breaking-in, my PCB Express is very quiet and stable... quieter than any of the Fenders or Marshalls that make their way through here, but not quite as quiet as my Rockster.

It is very sensitive to any vibration applied to the chassis. You can hear the mechanical snap of the bright switch through the amp. It is not a bad thing as long as it is isolated from any vibration. I usually sit it up on a pillow (must find a cooler method), and never on top of the speaker cab. We discovered a weird octave thing going on one day at a show... it was picking up the vibe from the cab resonance. Put it on the floor and it went away. I was aware of this possibility and it wasn't that big of a deal.

Just saying this because even though this is a very stable way to build this circuit you can still pick up funny noises if you don't pay attention to noise/vibration sources.

That said, this amp sounds gorgeous, clean all the way to flat gettin' it. The only complaint from anyone is that it is too loud as is... so I pass out earplugs!

Thanks and best wishes to rj!

Tony

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Koop wrote:
Thanks Mark, I'll rig up something similar.
EDIT - I decided to order aluminum housed resitors from Digi-Key since I could use a couple of other items as well. My $11 order will probably cost $20 by the time it ships!


Yeah isn't that the truth so I usually wait until I have a higher dollar parts list to fill before I order from Money pit Mouser. Smile


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M Fowler



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tony,

Glad your amp is working out so well except for the fan earplugs hard to put your band logo on such a small item. Smile Better go with Vulcan ear type.

Still the PCB type layout to me was such an improvement for stability. To eliminate what your going through I had to use lower gain tubes it's a must for most situations. Better get one of those garden knee pads to use between the head cab and speaker cab. Smile

Mark
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dorrisant



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Mark.
That is a good idea... I'll have to look for something like that. Much more low-profile than a over-stuffed throw pillow!

I am still thinking of using ampdoc's idea of attenuation via dropping power tube heater voltage. I tried this with a huge variable resistor and it worked but is too large to fit in most amps. I may have to get a VVR from Dana to do the scaling... just on that heater voltage.

Has anyone tried this?... just looking for a starting point. Seems like someone did... Hans maybe?
I have never even used VVR before. I know how it works but getting it to scale the smaller voltage and rectifying it to dc are two issues to address.

Tony

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