Oh...no, not another Tweedle Dee
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Oh...no, not another Tweedle Dee
Oh ... no, not another Tweedle Dee
Anyway, here are some fancy phone processed photos - I will change them for something cleanish later. Just forgot to save the originals.
Some of the obvious differences - head format, turret board, I will add VVR (and the pot is already installed), since as the others noted - this is one LOUD amp. The build turned out not too clean, as all the other great builds posted already - but sounds excellent and has no noise whatsoever. I hate these (strangely) forked turrets and having around 30-40 left is one of the reasons, I build that one, but my utter disgust in working with them shows off
Now pictured with the russian 6p6s tubes, which I quite like the sound of (and for 6$ a piece for a '67 production tube - you can't go wrong - I got another 4 sets - just in case ).
Tube complement for the sound bytes below is:
- V1- either RFT 12AX7, JJ ECC83S or Marshall ECC83 (which looks from Chinese origin to me)
- V2 - Sovtek 12AX7 LPS
- Power tubes - either JJ 6V6s or 6P6S
- Rectifier - TAD GZ34
[img:500:374]https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5566/148 ... b16a13.jpg[/img][img:500:374]https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3846/148 ... 96e71e.jpg[/img]
[img:374:500]https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5593/146 ... ab0728.jpg[/img]
[img:374:500]https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3916/146 ... 2ddaa6.jpg[/img]
Sound bytes (everything recorded through a 4x12" cab, albeit the amp sounds more open and punchy through my 1x12" open back cabs - and esp. with the WGS C12 speaker. I just felt too lazy to move the recording rig. Now these are either through a V30 or ToneTubby's Hempcones - can't remember which one's where in the cab).
Apart from reverb and delay (on some tracks only), not other sound processing has been performed. No EQ, Compressors, or other stuff.
I found that lower output pickups (both singles and humbuckers) tend to sound much better with this amp.
Toontrack drums - backing is Gibson LP, Strat for Lead;
https://soundcloud.com/synchu/deedum-6- ... b-new-caps
Strat - backing, Gibson LP - lead
https://soundcloud.com/synchu/deedum-3
Strat for the backing and the lead (various pickup combos for the lead)
https://soundcloud.com/synchu/deedum-5- ... -with-solo
Gibson LP - single track
https://soundcloud.com/synchu/deedum-4- ... jm-pickups
Overall I am very happy with how it turned out. Now waiting for some ECC803 JJs to explore the sounds with them, but I consider it ready for a head shell now
Thanks again to Charlie for the great contribution and all the others,
Niki
Anyway, here are some fancy phone processed photos - I will change them for something cleanish later. Just forgot to save the originals.
Some of the obvious differences - head format, turret board, I will add VVR (and the pot is already installed), since as the others noted - this is one LOUD amp. The build turned out not too clean, as all the other great builds posted already - but sounds excellent and has no noise whatsoever. I hate these (strangely) forked turrets and having around 30-40 left is one of the reasons, I build that one, but my utter disgust in working with them shows off
Now pictured with the russian 6p6s tubes, which I quite like the sound of (and for 6$ a piece for a '67 production tube - you can't go wrong - I got another 4 sets - just in case ).
Tube complement for the sound bytes below is:
- V1- either RFT 12AX7, JJ ECC83S or Marshall ECC83 (which looks from Chinese origin to me)
- V2 - Sovtek 12AX7 LPS
- Power tubes - either JJ 6V6s or 6P6S
- Rectifier - TAD GZ34
[img:500:374]https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5566/148 ... b16a13.jpg[/img][img:500:374]https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3846/148 ... 96e71e.jpg[/img]
[img:374:500]https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5593/146 ... ab0728.jpg[/img]
[img:374:500]https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3916/146 ... 2ddaa6.jpg[/img]
Sound bytes (everything recorded through a 4x12" cab, albeit the amp sounds more open and punchy through my 1x12" open back cabs - and esp. with the WGS C12 speaker. I just felt too lazy to move the recording rig. Now these are either through a V30 or ToneTubby's Hempcones - can't remember which one's where in the cab).
Apart from reverb and delay (on some tracks only), not other sound processing has been performed. No EQ, Compressors, or other stuff.
I found that lower output pickups (both singles and humbuckers) tend to sound much better with this amp.
Toontrack drums - backing is Gibson LP, Strat for Lead;
https://soundcloud.com/synchu/deedum-6- ... b-new-caps
Strat - backing, Gibson LP - lead
https://soundcloud.com/synchu/deedum-3
Strat for the backing and the lead (various pickup combos for the lead)
https://soundcloud.com/synchu/deedum-5- ... -with-solo
Gibson LP - single track
https://soundcloud.com/synchu/deedum-4- ... jm-pickups
Overall I am very happy with how it turned out. Now waiting for some ECC803 JJs to explore the sounds with them, but I consider it ready for a head shell now
Thanks again to Charlie for the great contribution and all the others,
Niki
Re: Oh...no, not another Tweedle Dee
Looks and sounds great Niki! Nice work!
Re: Oh...no, not another Tweedle Dee
Looks and sounds great
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You guys aren't helping my GAS for one of these Tweeder Deeder's.
That one clip by Synchu of a strat neck pickup was incredible.
If only Leo knew that kids wanted distortion!
That one clip by Synchu of a strat neck pickup was incredible.
If only Leo knew that kids wanted distortion!
Tom
Don't let that smoke out!
Don't let that smoke out!
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Sounds great man.
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We need a tweedle Dee section
Sondz great¡
Sondz great¡
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Thanks for the good words. Wouldn't have been possible without this great community.
Tom, not that I am saying you should have one, but it does sound quite inspirational with a low output neck strat pickup and even better through an open back cab, guitar volume interaction is also very good, not in the Trainwreck/Komet style, but very good on its own....just sayin'
Niki
Tom, not that I am saying you should have one, but it does sound quite inspirational with a low output neck strat pickup and even better through an open back cab, guitar volume interaction is also very good, not in the Trainwreck/Komet style, but very good on its own....just sayin'
Niki
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NIKI, Looks great. What OPT did you use ??? looks like 4/8/16 taps.
Steve.
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Oh yes! another Tweedle Dee, the amp sounds great. Sounds right in line with the original.
CW
CW
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Thanks Steve, Charlie.
Great to know it compares well to the original
Steve, these are inmadout.com transformers from Italy. I ordered the OT with 4/8/16 outs, so I can experiment with various cabs and mismatch for fun as well.
I used inmadout trafos for my K60 build some time ago and it sounded great. Very precise guys, they hit the custom spec'ed PT transformers, I ordered, both for Tweedle Dee and the K60 within 1 volt and are meticulous both quality and time wise. Ship before or on the date promised. Pricing is quite reasonable as well. With the limited choices in Europe, I'm quite happy finding them.
Niki
Great to know it compares well to the original
Steve, these are inmadout.com transformers from Italy. I ordered the OT with 4/8/16 outs, so I can experiment with various cabs and mismatch for fun as well.
I used inmadout trafos for my K60 build some time ago and it sounded great. Very precise guys, they hit the custom spec'ed PT transformers, I ordered, both for Tweedle Dee and the K60 within 1 volt and are meticulous both quality and time wise. Ship before or on the date promised. Pricing is quite reasonable as well. With the limited choices in Europe, I'm quite happy finding them.
Niki
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sounds great!
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Good to know another source for transformers in Europe.Synchu wrote:... these are inmadout.com transformers from Italy ...
What did you pay for yours?
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Can't remember the exact amount and since writing from the phone, can't check it now (will do later) but they were a bit lower than Hammond Set from tube-town. (with better specs altogether)
Niki
Niki
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+1 for Tube Town
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I got to use this amp on a sort of virtual jam last night (I have a friend who did a very nice backing track for that new Joe Bonamassa song the same day he heard it, I guess so I couldn't resist to jam a bit on it), and plugged a King of Tone drive pedal tuned as slight booster only, in front of it ......
.... and I can positively confirm that this combination sounded absolutely amazing by all means with a Gibson LP guitar
Then I tried few other booster sort of pedals (Suhr Koko, Rangemaster clone, etc.) and Tweedle D took them all very well.
I am so glad, that I build it and thanks again to all that contributed.
Just wanted to share this new experience. Here's the KoT recording to check the tones, nevermind me playing as always.... (who can compare with Joe anyway) ...
https://soundcloud.com/synchu/shades-of-blus-jim-jam-v2
Now, its SSS turn... or the JM...erghh...too much amps, too little time...
Niki
.... and I can positively confirm that this combination sounded absolutely amazing by all means with a Gibson LP guitar
Then I tried few other booster sort of pedals (Suhr Koko, Rangemaster clone, etc.) and Tweedle D took them all very well.
I am so glad, that I build it and thanks again to all that contributed.
Just wanted to share this new experience. Here's the KoT recording to check the tones, nevermind me playing as always.... (who can compare with Joe anyway) ...
https://soundcloud.com/synchu/shades-of-blus-jim-jam-v2
Now, its SSS turn... or the JM...erghh...too much amps, too little time...
Niki
Last edited by Synchu on Wed Aug 27, 2014 12:57 pm, edited 1 time in total.