Monkeymatic Trinity (5e3 Deluxe)
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Monkeymatic Trinity (5e3 Deluxe)
I bent my first chassis! Got a Harbor Freight 30" brake. I'm using 0.090" 5000 alloy aluminum. It's so thick, I had to score the breaks with my table saw, cutting a bit less than halfway through the material. Worked perfectly, and so damn sturdy, I abandoned the idea of reinforcing the ends with plywood.
I thought I might be doing some welding, so went and bought some Alumaweld and a propane torch. Great process--very easy and makes great, strong joins. But after folding this chassis and realizing how strong it is by itself, I won't be welding anything.
The PT is a vintage Triad from my vintage buddy at the flea market, and the OT is a Fender Bandmaster 4k/4R, which I'll be running at 8K/8R with a pair of 6V6.
I'm building on Doug Hoffman's (excellent!) 5e3 layout, and adding a VVR to scale the whole hog. Solid state rectifier. Two input jacks, with a switch to bridge them.
I thought I might be doing some welding, so went and bought some Alumaweld and a propane torch. Great process--very easy and makes great, strong joins. But after folding this chassis and realizing how strong it is by itself, I won't be welding anything.
The PT is a vintage Triad from my vintage buddy at the flea market, and the OT is a Fender Bandmaster 4k/4R, which I'll be running at 8K/8R with a pair of 6V6.
I'm building on Doug Hoffman's (excellent!) 5e3 layout, and adding a VVR to scale the whole hog. Solid state rectifier. Two input jacks, with a switch to bridge them.
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Looks great Aaron. I always enjoy the creativity of your builds and watching them unfold. I built a (modded) 5E3 a while back and it is a great amp. Beautiful tone therein. Oh, and I had a very fine vintage laquered Tweed cab made for it and it is robust in my opinion. Lightweight yes, but sturdy.
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Thanks, Dave!
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I built a VVR using a hefty MOSFET (STW20NK50Z) 'cause that's what I have on hand from the B+ reducers. Made a convenient layout combined with a 22uF reservoir cap and full-wave rectifier. This module, with the 1M pot, provides variable 500-45v DC (unloaded).
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Looks like fun! Let me know when you start selling chassis 

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Nice chassis work. Thanks for showing.
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Yes, my thoughts exactly!loctal wrote:Nice chassis work. Thanks for showing.
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Looks like you did a great job on that chassis.
Do you know the alloy or number of the material?
Do you know the alloy or number of the material?
Tom
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Thanks, everybuds. The Alu is 5052--the only choice offered at my "local", which is 25 miles away. Awesome place, All Metals--they'll laser and fold a custom chassis for $80 or so, and almost half that if one wants a whole sheet done (6-8 chassis).
But I'm always doing one-offs, so being able to hand tool and fold my own is cool.
Headed out to drill the turret board next...after a soak in the hot tub. I've heard it actually gets colder other places? But 30 degrees is quite a cold snap for Sunny CA.
But I'm always doing one-offs, so being able to hand tool and fold my own is cool.
Headed out to drill the turret board next...after a soak in the hot tub. I've heard it actually gets colder other places? But 30 degrees is quite a cold snap for Sunny CA.
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Mid 40s in TX and hell is officially freezing over.
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All done, and fairly kickstompin!
With VVR at max, plates are high, at 387, and dissipation is over 100% with that 250R cat resistor. But I plan to put in a limiter at ~350 volts, where the bias is nicely balanced.
The VVR works nicely. Yes, I hear some crossover distortion at lower voltages, but at bedroom levels, the amp sounds really tweedy. I wasn't expecting to hear the sag, but it's really obvious.
The normal/jumpered switch I made works great, but I'm tempted to remove the #2 input, and just rely on the switch to take it in or out of the circuit.
Can't wait to crank this up tomorrow.
With VVR at max, plates are high, at 387, and dissipation is over 100% with that 250R cat resistor. But I plan to put in a limiter at ~350 volts, where the bias is nicely balanced.
The VVR works nicely. Yes, I hear some crossover distortion at lower voltages, but at bedroom levels, the amp sounds really tweedy. I wasn't expecting to hear the sag, but it's really obvious.
The normal/jumpered switch I made works great, but I'm tempted to remove the #2 input, and just rely on the switch to take it in or out of the circuit.
Can't wait to crank this up tomorrow.
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Just wondering
What would be a good selling price for an amp like this put into a box with, 1 12" speaker in the $75.00 range. In other words a 1 12 combo? How much would the parts cost assuming a decent build?
The target market would be old rockers that have disposable cash for recreation similar to the skiing, fishing, hunting crowd for example. I would think those clients would have $2000 or so per year for a recreational activity.
silverfox.
The target market would be old rockers that have disposable cash for recreation similar to the skiing, fishing, hunting crowd for example. I would think those clients would have $2000 or so per year for a recreational activity.
silverfox.
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Nice!
I like the look of that black turret board.
I like the look of that black turret board.
Tom
Don't let that smoke out!
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Very nice job on both chassis build and the amplifier. 

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Thx, y'all!
SilverFox, when I build for myself, everything is made by hand, labor intensive--because labor is "free". But when I build for a client, sometimes it makes financial sense to buy a prebuilt chassis, turretboard, cabinet, etc. Depends on the budget.
When I have a contract for my full asking price (has happened, like, three times in five years), I charge about $60/hr for labor. I'm going to make a pine 1x12 cabinet for this, and by the time I'm done I'll have a bit less than 40 hours into it, making the amp "worth" about $3,000.
More realistically, I'll probably sell it after a few months or years for closer to $1,000.
SilverFox, when I build for myself, everything is made by hand, labor intensive--because labor is "free". But when I build for a client, sometimes it makes financial sense to buy a prebuilt chassis, turretboard, cabinet, etc. Depends on the budget.
When I have a contract for my full asking price (has happened, like, three times in five years), I charge about $60/hr for labor. I'm going to make a pine 1x12 cabinet for this, and by the time I'm done I'll have a bit less than 40 hours into it, making the amp "worth" about $3,000.
More realistically, I'll probably sell it after a few months or years for closer to $1,000.
I build and repair tube amps. http://amps.monkeymatic.com