I've come to understand that the Liverpool is somewhat in the range of Voxy sounds. I've built an Express, which to me is clearly in the ballpark of Marshall sounds.
How much of a Vox would you say the Liverpool is? If you forget about the extra gain, how would you compare say AC30 and the Liverpool?
Liverpool & Vox
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Re: Liverpool & Vox
I have built Liverpool and I would say you can get some of vox sound, however a quite narrow range as Liverpool is a high gain amp.
Rocket version of trainwreck series would be a real vox sounding amp.
Rocket version of trainwreck series would be a real vox sounding amp.
Re: Liverpool & Vox
The Liverpool is pretty close to the Express IMO. My Express has a bit more ass than my Liverpool but they're both killer. Lots of gain!
Andy
Andy
Re: Liverpool & Vox
Some one can correct me anytime on this as I am no expert on the subject. I think the Dr Z Stangray is closer to a Vox than the Liverpool.
Of course the two modified schematics below are based on the AC30 EF86.
Of course the two modified schematics below are based on the AC30 EF86.
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Re: Liverpool & Vox
The Rocket is the TW amp that is supposed to be more of a Vox amp not the Liverpool.
Re: Liverpool & Vox
The front end on the Express & the Liverpool are pretty much the same. The output section is what differentiates them. The Rocket is, supposedly, KF's take on a tweaked, single-channel AC30.UR12 wrote:The Rocket is the TW amp that is supposed to be more of a Vox amp not the Liverpool.
Andy
Re: Liverpool & Vox
I agree the Rocket is the AC30 of wrecks and I love both my EL84 and 6L6 version.
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Re: Liverpool & Vox
I think this is always confusing for people just learning about Trainwrecks. Ken made the first Liverpool for a guy in a Beatles tribute band (from what I have read & from the interview posted on youtube) but he wasn't really trying to recreate the AC30 he made the amp his customer wanted.
It's also confusing hearing that Brad Paisley has a Liverpool and is a well known AC30 guy. But as mentioned here, the Rocket is the AC30 based amp.
It's also confusing hearing that Brad Paisley has a Liverpool and is a well known AC30 guy. But as mentioned here, the Rocket is the AC30 based amp.
Barry
Re: Liverpool & Vox
Just compare the schematics from a AC30 and the Rocket and you will find there is a lot of the same part values and circuits used in the Rocket.Tone_Chaser wrote:I think this is always confusing for people just learning about Trainwrecks. Ken made the first Liverpool for a guy in a Beatles tribute band (from what I have read & from the interview posted on youtube) but he wasn't really trying to recreate the AC30 he made the amp his customer wanted.
It's also confusing hearing that Brad Paisley has a Liverpool and is a well known AC30 guy. But as mentioned here, the Rocket is the AC30 based amp.