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Re: Ferb-inator

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Structo wrote:Yeah the Holy Grail caps should have been a hint that it was a C'lator.

Regardless that is a nice build. You made it your own.

I was checking out Dorkbot.

I see they are a Portland based robot group.


James Neal aka "laen"l from Dorkbot pcb broke off and started a new company a few months ago at this link: http://oshpark.com/

I have been using his services for years, very stand up guy and highly recommended.
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Yeah. He's got an automated system for submitting the boards now. It's a great service for getting fabbed pcbs done in low quantities. I did some etching a long time ago, and the chemicals kind of freak me out with kids and cats running around. I just send the design off to Laen and get beautiful double sided screened boards with gold plated pads.

-Aaron
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aflynt wrote:Most of this probably isn't noteworthy or even all that interesting, but I figured I'd share my experience with adding reverb to a D'Lator since I think it works really well and sounds great. Basically, I just added two Hermida / GGG Reverb circuits in series at the point in the D'Lator circuit where the Recovery input pot normally goes. I used a dual pot to set both reverb mix levels the same at all settings.

The deal with the Hermida / GGG circuit with the old-style larger Belton bricks is that the higher you set them the more you hear the delay taps firing. I found that putting 2 in series and setting the mix controls identical eliminates that problem and give a very lush dense reverb sound. I also found that I never use the Recovery input control on the D'Lator so I figure that hole is better served as a reverb mix.

I did my own layout for the Reverb PCBs and shipped them off to Dorkbot to be fabbed. The layout works a bit better for daisy chaining them together than the GGG and is the same size and shape as the Belton brick itself with mounting tabs on the ends for the module. If anyone one is interested I'd be happy to post the Eagle .brd file and schematic for it.

Sonically I prefer this Reverb to any other I've used including old Fender spring reverbs. It just seems to sit in the mix better than anything else, has a very natural sound and doesn't wash out the sound too much when you crank it up.

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-Aaron
did same thing w/ONE long delay belton chip in a 100 watt harmonica amp ( d style!) amp w/built in dator, man it was SAWEET! I know what ya mean, the depth in these chips, and the warmth is something else all together, they snd better than my 80`s lexicon gear to an extent! Have fun, really sweet work man!

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Re: Power Transformer?

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ToneMerc wrote:
Smitty wrote:Nice Stuff! What power transformer are you using?
Nik just cloned the Triad R-2C

http://ampgarage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14464

TM
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Re: Ferb-inator

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Aaron are the bricks underneath your PCB's?

That is a sweet setup and it sounds great too.

I had a GGG reverb that somebody gave me after they couldn't get it to work but I never did anything with it. Not sure but I think he fried some of the chips.
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Structo wrote:Aaron are the bricks underneath your PCB's?

That is a sweet setup and it sounds great too.

I had a GGG reverb that somebody gave me after they couldn't get it to work but I never did anything with it. Not sure but I think he fried some of the chips.
Yup. Thanks! The bricks are mounted underneath the PCBs I designed and attached using screws through the tabs. The bricks are PT2399 based internally. The patent that the designer (Neunaber) has basically states that he's using the minimum number of delay chips to get a convincing reverb. Personally I don't think it's enough for a lush sound, which is why I doubled them up.

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Re: Ferb-inator

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So let me get this straight.
You have the two reverb circuits in parallel and they are controlled by the dual mix pot?

So are they both timed the same or is there just enough difference that they get a little phasey with each other?
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Re: Ferb-inator

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Structo wrote:So let me get this straight.
You have the two reverb circuits in parallel and they are controlled by the dual mix pot?

So are they both timed the same or is there just enough difference that they get a little phasey with each other?
I'm actually running them in series with the mix for each running into a different side of the pot. They sound pretty good in parallel though too since every Brick seems to sound a bit different. It's literally two complete GGG circuits running one into the other buffers and all.

-Aaron
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Aaron,
Looks awesome man. Really cool way to get creative! Can you turn the reverb off? Not that I ever would..
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Re: Ferb-inator

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amplifiednation wrote:Aaron,
Looks awesome man. Really cool way to get creative! Can you turn the reverb off? Not that I ever would..
Thanks! In the spirit of less-is-more the reverb-off function is accessed by turning the reverb knob fully counter-clockwise. :)

Seriously, though. I was thinking of ditching one of the bright switches in favor of a reverb bypass, but the thought of having to wire up more shielded cable made me change my mind. Someday I'll probably do it just to have the option.

-Aaron
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