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chewy notes on D-style amps

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I'm new at this, so please bear with me.
I was wondering what creates the "chewiness" on the notes with D-style amps.

In the video below, around 1:55, the notes are "chewy" - for lack of a better description.
What changes do I have to make to my amp to increase that chewy texture?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edOCecK7v5A
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greg54 wrote:What changes do I have to make to my amp to increase that chewy texture?
What amp are you starting with? I can't quite see it from this view.
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Turn it up and use a les paul with low output pickups like PAF's.
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I have a D-clone. It's a great amp, but the "chewiness" isn't quite there. So I was wondering if there is something I can do to increase it...
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greg54 wrote:I have a D-clone. It's a great amp, but the "chewiness" isn't quite there. So I was wondering if there is something I can do to increase it...
Have you gone through the setup guide here to dial in the balance of the PI and the trimmer?

What guitar are you using? Which clone (tone stack, high/low plate)?
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Zippy wrote:
Have you gone through the setup guide here to dial in the balance of the PI and the trimmer?

I didn't know there was a setup guide. I will check it out.
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greg54 wrote:I have a D-clone.
Not trying to be a smart ass here, but in a purely tangible term what does that exactly mean in your case?

For example, for a Dumble ODS there's 11 pre-amp topologies(aka voicings), 5 OD topologies, 3 phase inverter topologies and 3 types of power supplies?

It's kind of hard to make any meaningful suggestions if I have no clue on what you have. It's just about equivalent to someone asking, I have this car, so what type of tires should I put on it?

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And what is the brand or who made the amp? It makes a difference.
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Sorry -
Dumble ODS clone, 6L6, 80's non-HRM, Skyliner. Made by Mark Kane.

So, what makes the chewy notes?

Here's the inside..

[image][IMG:1024:424]http://i1028.photobucket.com/albums/y348/chewe13/IMG_0127_zpsd139f848.jpg[/img][/img]
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That's a great looking build!
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Looks like a really well built amp. I don't thing there's any one specific thing you can do to turn up the "chew" on one of these. It's more just tuning values and voltages until everything just comes together.

Personally, I think a lot of that "chewy" quality comes from dialing the amp with a moderately large amount of gain and palm muting. He's got the OD and bass dialed up a bit more on that album and on Handful of Blues than he uses lately. It's a cool sound and if you listen carefully you can tell he's got the low end set loose and he's just controlling it with technique to keep it from sounding inappropriately pukey.

-Aaron
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aflynt wrote:Looks like a really well built amp. I don't thing there's any one specific thing you can do to turn up the "chew" on one of these. It's more just tuning values and voltages until everything just comes together.

Personally, I think a lot of that "chewy" quality comes from dialing the amp with a moderately large amount of gain and palm muting. He's got the OD and bass dialed up a bit more on that album and on Handful of Blues than he uses lately. It's a cool sound and if you listen carefully you can tell he's got the low end set loose and he's just controlling it with technique to keep it from sounding inappropriately pukey.

-Aaron
Interesting way of putting it. Yes, he's holding back the notes through Palm muting and picking technique to keep it from getting farty while making it chewy.

I find that I tweak the chewiness out, and open up my right hand technique to bring out the zing, otherwise it gets buried in the mix. It's all in how you adjust the eq and gains and adjust your technique.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO7cEOjuSWI#t=74

Here is a Mark Kane take on an RF amp
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I saw Ford numerous times in the early to mid nineties. I can assure you that there was nothing chewy about his live tone, in fact at times it was damn near piercing. Don't forget the studio magic has been applied.....
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