Add another one to the list....

[ToneMerc]

The Youtube clip of Gary Phil isn't doing that amp any favors...Or vice versa.

I hate to admit it, but I agree. I listened to some of it, but did not even finish it. Nothing compelling there for me. (It is not my intent to bash anyone or anything here.)

I was thinking the same thing and wondering if it was only me. I found it hard to tell the difference between the R/J, PAB and mid boost functions.

TM

[David Root]

Assembled in Puerto Rico maybe?

[FUCHSAUDIO]

He actually mentions using Weber transformers ?! I wouldn't brag about the Weber Iron, especially if they are the Chinese Fender clones, which are (or at-least were the last time I checked any out) pretty grim. Yeah, the Vox cloth and Double Trouble name are asking for legal problems down the line..

[exocet]

Pretty Limited offering compared to the other folks.

The Youtube clip of Gary Phil isn't doing that amp any favors...Or vice versa.

Why was there so much distortion even before kicking in the OD?

[ToneMerc]

He actually mentions using Weber transformers ?! I wouldn't brag about the Weber Iron, especially if they are the Chinese Fender clones, which are (or at-least were the last time I checked any out) pretty grim.

http://ampgarage.com/forum/viewtopic.ph ... ht=#138513


TM

[martin manning]

Re proliferation of new start-ups, or, some thoughts on why I've never considered giving up my day job.

Anything for which there is a demand, and which can be made using available technology and a low initial investment, is going to generate this kind of thing. I'm sure there are quite a number of people out there building-up kit amps from places like Weber and Mojo, and selling them to others who don't have the skills to assemble them themselves. The builder in that scenario need make almost zero initial investment, as a deposit could cover the cost of the kit.

Maybe the next step is where there is no kit available, but it's not too difficult to source the components and fab'ed parts. The technology to make this happen is also readily available at very low cost. In addition, the internet has made it very easy to advertise the product, and web pages can be made to look very slick, even to a point far surpassing the level of sophistication and experience behind the product itself. Often the sell price is set low to attract business, and this is what usually rubs the established players the wrong way, because they know that this price is not viable if all the proper business practices are followed, including having things like liability insurance, as well as health insurance and a retirement plan.

If it's going to be more than a hobby, in the end I have to believe it's very hard to make a lot of money, considering all the hours invested, until there is enough demand for a particular product to permit setting a high enough sell price. And, that price is going to have to be quite a bit higher than the mass-produced products, which benefit from economy of scale.

The necessary product differentiation could result from something real, like superior craftsmanship and reliability, which will take time to establish, or unique technological features, which is less likely given that there aren't many secrets that are kept for very long. More likely it will be well established quality and service, plus some intangible value (nothing short of hype, really) that generates the order backlog and high sell price.

We've seen some examples in the D-style amp game, where a famous player takes a shine to somebody's amp, and the fire is lit. Then the question becomes: can the builder, having got his hand on the brass ring, hold on to it? A new set of problems now arise, like how to fill the demand, run a bigger business enterprise with more sales and marketing requirements, and how to stay ahead of the new guys who will surely come along behind, claiming to offer the same product for half the price.

I see parallels in several other product niches... producing handwired guitar amps is not unique.

[groovtubin]

Pretty Limited offering compared to the other folks.

The Youtube clip of Gary Phil isn't doing that amp any favors...Or vice versa.

Why was there so much distortion even before kicking in the OD?

pretty sure its 3 stages clean, ONE stage OD, ( i am kNOWN to B wrong! lol!) GoofyDawg says that at the link in this thread. He preferred using boost and pushing the power section.

jimbo

[HeeBGB]

Am I the only one who noticed the reverse angle on the bridge PUP on the strat in the Gary Pihl vid?


Can you say HENDRIX?

[wjdunham]

Pretty Limited offering compared to the other folks.

The Youtube clip of Gary Phil isn't doing that amp any favors...Or vice versa.

Why was there so much distortion even before kicking in the OD?

pretty sure its 3 stages clean, ONE stage OD, ( i am kNOWN to B wrong! lol!) GoofyDawg says that at the link in this thread. He preferred using boost and pushing the power section.

jimbo

There was so much distortion because Gary was using an attenuator and had the master dimed even on the clean channel. He's a great player (and person) but "clean" isn't in his vocabulary. Working desperately on getting some more varied clips and videos up there... Most people don't use Dumble style amps for that type of classic rock, but I thought that it showed what's possible, even though not in the typical jazz fusion style that really shows off what a Dumble amp can do.
Bill

[groovtubin]

Why was there so much distortion even before kicking in the OD?

pretty sure its 3 stages clean, ONE stage OD, ( i am kNOWN to B wrong! lol!) GoofyDawg says that at the link in this thread. He preferred using boost and pushing the power section.

jimbo

There was so much distortion because Gary was using an attenuator and had the master dimed even on the clean channel. He's a great player (and person) but "clean" isn't in his vocabulary. Working desperately on getting some more varied clips and videos up there... Most people don't use Dumble style amps for that type of classic rock, but I thought that it showed what's possible, even though not in the typical jazz fusion style that really shows off what a Dumble amp can do.
Bill

FINE sounding amp Bill, don`t get discouraged at ALL i build these things are off as i can getem! lol! There are ALOT of everyone doing the same thing as it is..

jim@Omegaamps

[groovtubin]

pretty sure its 3 stages clean, ONE stage OD, ( i am kNOWN to B wrong! lol!) GoofyDawg says that at the link in this thread. He preferred using boost and pushing the power section.

jimbo

There was so much distortion because Gary was using an attenuator and had the master dimed even on the clean channel. He's a great player (and person) but "clean" isn't in his vocabulary. Working desperately on getting some more varied clips and videos up there... Most people don't use Dumble style amps for that type of classic rock, but I thought that it showed what's possible, even though not in the typical jazz fusion style that really shows off what a Dumble amp can do.
Bill

FINE sounding amp Bill, don`t get discouraged at ALL i build these things are off as i can getem! lol! There are ALOT of everyone doing the same thing as it is..

jim@Omegaamps

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDt4dwIy ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGwrd79syoY
ADD MASOTTI AMPS TO THE LIST, doing the hi gain version, it`s all independent channels i think from reading the description,

[leodiditright]

Pretty Limited offering compared to the other folks.

The Youtube clip of Gary Phil isn't doing that amp any favors...Or vice versa.

Awful clip IMHO, many crappy little pedals into a clean amp can get you there...