Somewhere between 102 and 183
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Re: Somewhere between 102 and 183
this has a better analogue side than the newer TC delays.
Takes line level well too.
Still going strong on one of my boards.
M
Takes line level well too.
Still going strong on one of my boards.
M
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You got me excited for a minute until I saw the measly 1300$ price...
I'll go soak my head for a while.
~Phil
I'll go soak my head for a while.
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Re: Somewhere between 102 and 183
Philpompeiisneaks wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:23 pm You got me excited for a minute until I saw the measly 1300$ price...
I'll go soak my head for a while.
~Phil
here you are less than $100
https://reverb.com/item/29127510-tc-ele ... nova-delay
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Something in the cost translation says 110 + 10 shipping so 120 but that's an amazing cost difference. Why would someone buy one for 1200 and sell it for 100?norburybrook wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:48 pmPhilpompeiisneaks wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:23 pm You got me excited for a minute until I saw the measly 1300$ price...
I'll go soak my head for a while.
~Phil
here you are less than $100
https://reverb.com/item/29127510-tc-ele ... nova-delay
Seems pretty weird to me? How can it be worth 1200 new and garbage lot sale 100 used?
https://www.amazon.com/TC-Electronic-ND ... B000X1WD56
new from amazon, 1249.99?
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Re: Somewhere between 102 and 183
Thanks, Tony, Stelligan, Marcus and Phil for the very helpful information.
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Smitty
Those Rocktron devices Marcus mentioned(in another thread?): Intellifex and Expression have analog dry paths and can be had on the cheap, I own them both and they perform well for delays and modulation. IMHO the reverbs - not so much. It required a lot of programming to get a decent verb. FWIW the older Intellifex is my fav of the 2...
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Re: Somewhere between 102 and 183
Philpompeiisneaks wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:02 pmSomething in the cost translation says 110 + 10 shipping so 120 but that's an amazing cost difference. Why would someone buy one for 1200 and sell it for 100?norburybrook wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:48 pmPhilpompeiisneaks wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:23 pm You got me excited for a minute until I saw the measly 1300$ price...
I'll go soak my head for a while.
~Phil
here you are less than $100
https://reverb.com/item/29127510-tc-ele ... nova-delay
Seems pretty weird to me? How can it be worth 1200 new and garbage lot sale 100 used?
https://www.amazon.com/TC-Electronic-ND ... B000X1WD56
new from amazon, 1249.99?
~Phil
In the UK they're about £250 max new when available.
https://www.google.co.uk/shopping/produ ... bOEALw_wcB
maybe They've stopped making them and perhaps they're becoming like the Klon.
p.s. I got the cost translation the wrong way round
M
Re: Somewhere between 102 and 183
As an alternative, because apparently some modern SM can get leaky and/or microphonic, I've had great luck with polystyrene film caps. Not only are they low distortion, low leakage, but they tend to be very accurate (you can often find 1% tolerance) and some will even have the outer foil marked from the factory as an added bonus. The drawbacks are that you need to be careful not to overheat them, and they don't seem to be produced very widely anymore, so you almost have to go NOS, but the pricing is pretty reasonable, IMO, sometimes cheaper than the better quality modern Mica caps. To me, the Polystyrene also seem to produce slightly less ear fatigue in the highs compared to SM, but that could just be placebo..martin manning wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:45 pm I think we're still talking past each other. C0G ceramic is a good substitute for mica if one is after low distortion and good temperature stability (virtually ideal behavior), and it has the advantage of being more reliable, available, and cheaper. I'm talking about the case where ceramic cap distortion is NOT wanted.
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Re: Somewhere between 102 and 183
Walking in Tony's footsteps, I have been busy gathering parts, and organizing this new build.
Finally, I am almost done.
-No NFB on V1B
-330uF 400v filtering
-150k CF slope resistor
- 220k Draloric CF on the OD entrance
- all bypass caps are tantalum
-500k B bass pot
-embeded d-lator with dedicated filtering and everything grounds at V3
I had to use a few koa speers here and there, since I could not get my hands on the right value and/or the correct type of resistors.
I have the heaters to wire this week, and finish wiring the send pot from the d-lator. I put in the front of the amp the return knob, as well as the dry/wet mix pot.
3 relays for PAB, MID boost and OD switching.
I must say I am excited to hear how this one will sound!
Should be ready for a smoke test somewhere this week, not sure exactly when as I am pretty busy these days with work.
One question remains : where should I ground the NFB/PI ?
On the original layout, it grounds at the FX loop, but these are isolated from the chassis on this build. And the whole FX grounds meet at V3's. Any advice ?
Thanks a bunch!
Fred.
Finally, I am almost done.
-No NFB on V1B
-330uF 400v filtering
-150k CF slope resistor
- 220k Draloric CF on the OD entrance
- all bypass caps are tantalum
-500k B bass pot
-embeded d-lator with dedicated filtering and everything grounds at V3
I had to use a few koa speers here and there, since I could not get my hands on the right value and/or the correct type of resistors.
I have the heaters to wire this week, and finish wiring the send pot from the d-lator. I put in the front of the amp the return knob, as well as the dry/wet mix pot.
3 relays for PAB, MID boost and OD switching.
I must say I am excited to hear how this one will sound!
Should be ready for a smoke test somewhere this week, not sure exactly when as I am pretty busy these days with work.
One question remains : where should I ground the NFB/PI ?
On the original layout, it grounds at the FX loop, but these are isolated from the chassis on this build. And the whole FX grounds meet at V3's. Any advice ?
Thanks a bunch!
Fred.
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Re: Somewhere between 102 and 183
I think you’d be fine grounding the PI and GNFB at the chassis mounted lug that is near the impedance selector. What else is grounded there?fred.violleau wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 2:09 amOne question remains : where should I ground the NFB/PI ?
On the original layout, it grounds at the FX loop, but these are isolated from the chassis on this build. And the whole FX grounds meet at V3's. Any advice ?
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Re: Somewhere between 102 and 183
Hey Martin,
The lug in front of the impedance selector is grounding the B+2 filtering.
The lug in front of the impedance selector is grounding the B+2 filtering.
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Re: Somewhere between 102 and 183
I think that will be fine.fred.violleau wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:41 pmThe lug in front of the impedance selector is grounding the B+2 filtering.
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Re: Somewhere between 102 and 183
Alright, I will give be it a shot! Thanks Martin.
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Great looking build Fred!
I ground mine there as well and works great. Nice and quiet.
Let us know how you like it!
Cheers
G
I ground mine there as well and works great. Nice and quiet.
Let us know how you like it!
Cheers
G
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Re: Somewhere between 102 and 183
Thanks guys, all wiring is complete, tomorrow I will start and check up all voltages. Done for the night and it is not the time for me to poke the bear: kids are asleep and if I need to troubleshoot, it will haunt my sleep so...
Will keep you posted tomorrow!
Cheers
Fred.
Will keep you posted tomorrow!
Cheers
Fred.
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