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KT-88 Non-HRM Clip

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Here is a clip of my personal KT-88 amp..
It actually started out as a Traynor YBA-1 gutted... chassis transformers used.. The amp was an early prototype for several different amps before finally landing here.. Points of interest here include 250k drive/ 250K OD master.. Od entrance is 2 110k resistors instead of the single 220k.. Slightly smoother.. PI coupling caps are Theta Audio caps..This gives it a kind of a fuzz face type breakup as well as a chewer type grind.. OD trimmer is 250K set pretty high boarder line flabby on the lowend..500v on the plates and I am dropping 100v on the screens using an OC3 regulator..I am not so sure the amp is my favorite out of the bunch,(Although I really liked the slide tone I got from it) it does have a unique voice and is a cool amp if you want to take the amp to a gig that has a bit more of an attitude.. Anyway I thought I would post it to get some opinions as you know how some amps that you don't consider your fave other people think different.. The recording has it's flaws but thanks for listening and hope you like the clip..

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_so ... ID=9125192
Bit of a lead in
Tony
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Re: KT-88 Non-HRM Clip

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That's really different than I expected, chewier and looser.

Excellent playing as well.
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Great unique tone! Really liked it alot.

The playing fit the tone very nicely---dramatic.
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Very nice Tony. Great playing as well! I'm about to try a pair of KT88's in my non HRM. I also have around 500V on the plates. So is it necessary to drop the screen voltage when using KT88's?

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Blindog wrote:Very nice Tony. Great playing as well! I'm about to try a pair of KT88's in my non HRM. I also have around 500V on the plates. So is it necessary to drop the screen voltage when using KT88's?

Mark
Thanks Mark/Everyone
Max screen voltage on 88's is 600v so no it's not critical..The amp at one time had 6550's in it and the screen voltage rating on the GE's I had in it were rated 400v.. Although you could still run them @ 500v and get away with it... The OC3 on the screens is a kind of poor mans ultralinear..Dropping and regulating the screen voltage serves a nice chime like quality run clean much like the ultra Fenders however the OD takes on a slightly different character..Chewier a bit more expressive type breakup like a B3 which also uses the OC3..It really is a taste thing and went a little wild on this one just to have something a bit different so thought I would post.. Some really like the tone of the amp others not really since it takes it a bit out of Dumbleville..

Tony
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Great clip,Tony. Dont worry about straying a little out of Dumbleville....after all, HAD strayed outside of Fenderville!!! :D
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I like it!
Very Beckish. :D
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killer tones tony,your quite the player also 8)
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Structo wrote:I like it!
Very Beckish. :D
T
Kinda funny actually..growing up I never really got into Beck.. Iv'e always liked his style and had great respect for him but never really got into fusion type instrumental stuff..For me it was either classical (Nylon string) or straight ahead Blues..I will say though that the recent Ronnie Scott's DVD has me studying his style with great amazement..I think he has finally come around full circle and is beginning to get the attention and respect he so rightly deserves..A true guitar hero in every respect..
killer tones tony,your quite the player also
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Tony,

Great tones and excellent playing. Beautiful trem work!

Keep 'em comin'.

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talbany wrote:[ Max screen voltage on 88's is 600v so no it's not critical..The amp at one time had 6550's in it and the screen voltage rating on the GE's I had in it were rated 400v.. Although you could still run them @ 500v and get away with it... The OC3 on the screens is a kind of poor mans ultralinear..Dropping and regulating the screen voltage serves a nice chime like quality run clean much like the ultra Fenders however the OD takes on a slightly different character..Chewier a bit more expressive type breakup like a B3 which also uses the OC3..
Thanks for the explanation Tony. I was having trouble making sense out some of the data sheets. All clear now :D

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Here is my take on this backing track - 6L6's, non-hrm, tele. I was trying to see how it responsive the amp would be on mild boost and just changing the picking attack. Your playing was very Beckish. :D

talbany wrote:Here is a clip of my personal KT-88 amp..
It actually started out as a Traynor YBA-1 gutted... chassis transformers used.. The amp was an early prototype for several different amps before finally landing here.. Points of interest here include 250k drive/ 250K OD master.. Od entrance is 2 110k resistors instead of the single 220k.. Slightly smoother.. PI coupling caps are Theta Audio caps..This gives it a kind of a fuzz face type breakup as well as a chewer type grind.. OD trimmer is 250K set pretty high boarder line flabby on the lowend..500v on the plates and I am dropping 100v on the screens using an OC3 regulator..I am not so sure the amp is my favorite out of the bunch,(Although I really liked the slide tone I got from it) it does have a unique voice and is a cool amp if you want to take the amp to a gig that has a bit more of an attitude.. Anyway I thought I would post it to get some opinions as you know how some amps that you don't consider your fave other people think different.. The recording has it's flaws but thanks for listening and hope you like the clip..

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_so ... ID=9125192
Bit of a lead in
Tony
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drpastorbob wrote:Here is my take on this backing track - 6L6's, non-hrm, tele. I was trying to see how it responsive the amp would be on mild boost and just changing the picking attack. Your playing was very Beckish. :D

talbany wrote:Here is a clip of my personal KT-88 amp..
It actually started out as a Traynor YBA-1 gutted... chassis transformers used.. The amp was an early prototype for several different amps before finally landing here.. Points of interest here include 250k drive/ 250K OD master.. Od entrance is 2 110k resistors instead of the single 220k.. Slightly smoother.. PI coupling caps are Theta Audio caps..This gives it a kind of a fuzz face type breakup as well as a chewer type grind.. OD trimmer is 250K set pretty high boarder line flabby on the lowend..500v on the plates and I am dropping 100v on the screens using an OC3 regulator..I am not so sure the amp is my favorite out of the bunch,(Although I really liked the slide tone I got from it) it does have a unique voice and is a cool amp if you want to take the amp to a gig that has a bit more of an attitude.. Anyway I thought I would post it to get some opinions as you know how some amps that you don't consider your fave other people think different.. The recording has it's flaws but thanks for listening and hope you like the clip..

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_so ... ID=9125192
Bit of a lead in
Tony
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Good to hear 2 peoples take on the same clip.. You were getting quite a bit more compression out of your amp than mine however very smooth.. Definitely can hear that pick attack..Enjoyed the clip.... Thanks for posting it..
Tony
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Tony, I think I like this clip the best of the bunch you've posted lately, definitely different. The Scuttlebutin' clip was great, but this is just different, more in the Marshall direction maybe? At the volume you were recording, which I assume was pretty low, how much effect do the power tubes have vs. the other differences in the circuit? I'm with Tom, very close to Jeff Beck tone (which is a good thing :D )
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wjdunham wrote:Tony, I think I like this clip the best of the bunch you've posted lately, definitely different. The Scuttlebutin' clip was great, but this is just different, more in the Marshall direction maybe? At the volume you were recording, which I assume was pretty low, how much effect do the power tubes have vs. the other differences in the circuit? I'm with Tom, very close to Jeff Beck tone (which is a good thing :D )
Bill
Brother Bill good to hear from you!!..Thanks for the Kudos!!
This amp prefer's to be goosed a bit..10db.. The higher value Drive/OD entrance pots give the OD tone some girth/ low end however as you know this keeps the amp from sustaining/singing at lower volumes (vs the stock values) so it needs a bit of help from the output section.. always the trade off huh!!..This is the main difference I hear... The KT-88's to me sound better pushed anyway so it kind of works here which is why I left it..When they do break they have that crunchier type breakup (larger plates and OC3) that gives it that Marshally thing your hearing.. The amp really is thicker than the clip exposes..(you can hear in the 3rd solo where it overdrives the mike a bit when playing down the neck).. I like allot of low end on my OD tone something about the low snarl that gets me..Expressive.. Hope this helps!! Thanks Again :D

Tony
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