I'm watching the swearing-in of President O'bama on the HD big screen.
I'm sending my best wishes to all my American friends!
I'm hoping that the new President will bring peace and prosperity.
I'm confident that he will...he's a sensitive and intelligent man.
Mercy!
A new day...for equality!!!
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Man!...Can that man speak!! Wow!
Stew
Stew
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The whole world is celebrating this day!
It's special day today and I hope this leads to a world where racism no longer exists.
It's special day today and I hope this leads to a world where racism no longer exists.
Eardrums!!! We don't need no stinkin' eardrums!
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We all hope that Obama's presidency is an over-the-top success in all respects!
Unfotunately, that ain't gonna happen in our lifetimes. It's taken our country 50 years to get to where we are now by a very determined effort. There are whole swaths of the world that are pretty racist, and they haven't even -started- down such a path. Maybe this will be a good nudge to start them.dartanion wrote:I hope this leads to a world where racism no longer exists.
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I celebrate the achievement of a black man as President.
I am concerned about the MASSIVE amount of hope put into one man. I am interested to see what his "approval rating" will be after he actually DOES some things.
He is a fabulous orator - when the script is already written, that is.
I am concerned about the MASSIVE amount of hope put into one man. I am interested to see what his "approval rating" will be after he actually DOES some things.
He is a fabulous orator - when the script is already written, that is.
Wife: How many amps do you need?
Me: Just one more...
Me: Just one more...
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He certainly has a lot to live up to and he hasn't served one day as the president yet.
I hope he lives up to all the talk.
I hope he lives up to all the talk.
Tom
Don't let that smoke out!
Don't let that smoke out!
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Being old enough to remember "Whites Only" water fountains and segregated schools, theaters, and restaurants, I'm glad that I lived to see this happen and to segregation disappearing. Whether he succeeds or fails won't be because of his race, although I pray he is talented enough to be a success. We need it 
Tim
In case the NSA is listening, KMA!
In case the NSA is listening, KMA!
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I am optimistic, though will surely find myself among the loyal opposition.
So many people seem to have expectations and aspirations that simply cannot in reality be met. The problems that plagued President Obama's predecessor are indeed extraordinary and difficult. If they weren't, honest, they would've been solved. We have already seen an attempt to scale back expectations, let's do be realistic.
That we've elected a black man as president is somewhat unsurprising to those of us who have known just how dead institutionalized racism is in this country. Still, it is good to see it confirmed. Perhaps some dancing on the grave of Jim Crow is in order.
To be honest, I'm less concerned with the real problems, those are manageable and have existed throughout the ages. We will have enemies. There will be crop and business cycles. There will continue to be ambivalence on immigration between compassion and interest. These are pretty well eternal. What is worrisome are things like the global warming fraud and more so the frantic, headlong rush to "do something now." And the urgent press to "do something" about the current economy. Most Americans can recall the last few times we were told that something needed done now and how that turned out <cough>Iraq<cough>.
That's where the whole "loyal opposition" thing comes in. Want to blame poor planning in Iraq on someone, how about the people who played their role in opposition incompetently. We had Byrd (the great filibusterer) standing in the Senate droning endlessly that "there are important questions to be asked" but having the floor he never actually asked them. He just stalled. Rather than a debate about how best to deal with Saddam it turned into schoolyard name calling. There are always important questions to be asked. I'll be asking them, hopefully better than those presently in the majority.
In general, I think Obama will do well. He is a smart guy, he is surrounded by smart people and he does want to succeed. Democracy is a comples and usually undignified process but it can work out well. I think if he can avoid the impulse to move rashly he'll be fine. He'll piss off some of his partisans and win over some skeptics and the great and glorious mess that is governance in America will go on.
So many people seem to have expectations and aspirations that simply cannot in reality be met. The problems that plagued President Obama's predecessor are indeed extraordinary and difficult. If they weren't, honest, they would've been solved. We have already seen an attempt to scale back expectations, let's do be realistic.
That we've elected a black man as president is somewhat unsurprising to those of us who have known just how dead institutionalized racism is in this country. Still, it is good to see it confirmed. Perhaps some dancing on the grave of Jim Crow is in order.
To be honest, I'm less concerned with the real problems, those are manageable and have existed throughout the ages. We will have enemies. There will be crop and business cycles. There will continue to be ambivalence on immigration between compassion and interest. These are pretty well eternal. What is worrisome are things like the global warming fraud and more so the frantic, headlong rush to "do something now." And the urgent press to "do something" about the current economy. Most Americans can recall the last few times we were told that something needed done now and how that turned out <cough>Iraq<cough>.
That's where the whole "loyal opposition" thing comes in. Want to blame poor planning in Iraq on someone, how about the people who played their role in opposition incompetently. We had Byrd (the great filibusterer) standing in the Senate droning endlessly that "there are important questions to be asked" but having the floor he never actually asked them. He just stalled. Rather than a debate about how best to deal with Saddam it turned into schoolyard name calling. There are always important questions to be asked. I'll be asking them, hopefully better than those presently in the majority.
In general, I think Obama will do well. He is a smart guy, he is surrounded by smart people and he does want to succeed. Democracy is a comples and usually undignified process but it can work out well. I think if he can avoid the impulse to move rashly he'll be fine. He'll piss off some of his partisans and win over some skeptics and the great and glorious mess that is governance in America will go on.
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Disclaimer: I’m no John McCain/Sarah Palin fan …
My hope, and please understand me when I say this, I disagree fervently with the people on our side of the aisle (independents & republicans) who have caved and who say, "Well, I hope he succeeds. We've got to give him a chance." Why? They didn't give Bush a chance in 2000. Before he was inaugurated the search-and-destroy mission had begun. I'm not talking about search-and-destroy, but I've been listening to Barack Obama for a year-and-a-half. I know what his politics are. I know what his plans are, as he has stated them. I don't want them to succeed.
If I wanted Obama to succeed, I'd be happy the Republicans have laid down. And I would be encouraging Republicans to lay down and support him. Look, what he's talking about is the absorption of as much of the private sector by the US government as possible, from the banking business, to the mortgage industry, the automobile business, to health care. I do not want the government in charge of all of these things. I don't want this to work. I hope he fails.
See, here's the point, everybody thinks it's outrageous to say “I hope he fails.” Why is it any different, what's new, what is unfair about my saying I hope liberalism fails?
Were the liberals out there hoping Bush succeeded or were they out there trying to destroy him before he was even inaugurated? Why do we have to play the game by their rules? Why do we have to accept the premise here that because of the historical nature of his presidency, that we want him to succeed?
This is affirmative action, if we do that. We want to promote failure, we want to promote incompetence, we want to stand by and not object to what he's doing simply because of the color of his skin? Sorry, I got past the historical nature of this issue months ago. He is the president of the United States, he's my president, he's a human being, and his ideas and policies are what count for me, not his skin color, not his past, not whatever ties he doesn't have to being down with the struggle, all of that's irrelevant to me. We're talking about my country, the United States of America, my nieces, my nephews, your kids, your grandkids. Why in the world do we want to saddle them with more liberalism and socialism? Why would I want to do that? So I can answer it, four words, "I hope he fails." And that would be the most outrageous thing anybody in this climate could say.
Shows you just how far gone we are doesn’t it? The race industry isn't going to go away, and the fact that America's original sin of slavery is going to be absolved, it's not going to happen. It just isn't folks. It's too big a business for the left to keep all those things alive that divide the people of this country into groups that are against each other. Yes, I'm fired up about this. By the way, Mr. Obama got voted gun salesman of the year for 2008 – wonder why that is?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/01 ... gun-sales/
I'm honored to be the last man standing. I could say I hope he fails and I could do a brief explanation of why. You know what, I want to win. Even if the majority of “kool-aid” drinking Obamorons don't, I do. I’ve worked VERY hard to get to where I am in life and I’m not jumping on the bandwagon to start helping out the dolts in this country who have no ambition, desire or pride to help themselves or their families. I didn’t buy a house I couldn’t afford and I certainly never asked to be subsidized, have my health care paid for me or any other government “entitlement.” I’ve earned it by a process called determination & hard work – something lacking in today’s breed of fat, lazy Americans.
$700 BILLION bailout with stink-eye Pelosi asking for $835 BILLION more while in the same breath saying we need to remove Bush’s tax cuts immediately and start spending to get this economy on track. So by using that same logic if I fall behind on my house payments, the only way for me to get back on track is to spend money on a new Mercedes? Makes perfect sense….I can’t pay my bills so I’ll just spend my way into prosperity.
Just for the record, this cartoon was drawn over 15 years ago ….
My hope, and please understand me when I say this, I disagree fervently with the people on our side of the aisle (independents & republicans) who have caved and who say, "Well, I hope he succeeds. We've got to give him a chance." Why? They didn't give Bush a chance in 2000. Before he was inaugurated the search-and-destroy mission had begun. I'm not talking about search-and-destroy, but I've been listening to Barack Obama for a year-and-a-half. I know what his politics are. I know what his plans are, as he has stated them. I don't want them to succeed.
If I wanted Obama to succeed, I'd be happy the Republicans have laid down. And I would be encouraging Republicans to lay down and support him. Look, what he's talking about is the absorption of as much of the private sector by the US government as possible, from the banking business, to the mortgage industry, the automobile business, to health care. I do not want the government in charge of all of these things. I don't want this to work. I hope he fails.
See, here's the point, everybody thinks it's outrageous to say “I hope he fails.” Why is it any different, what's new, what is unfair about my saying I hope liberalism fails?
Were the liberals out there hoping Bush succeeded or were they out there trying to destroy him before he was even inaugurated? Why do we have to play the game by their rules? Why do we have to accept the premise here that because of the historical nature of his presidency, that we want him to succeed?
This is affirmative action, if we do that. We want to promote failure, we want to promote incompetence, we want to stand by and not object to what he's doing simply because of the color of his skin? Sorry, I got past the historical nature of this issue months ago. He is the president of the United States, he's my president, he's a human being, and his ideas and policies are what count for me, not his skin color, not his past, not whatever ties he doesn't have to being down with the struggle, all of that's irrelevant to me. We're talking about my country, the United States of America, my nieces, my nephews, your kids, your grandkids. Why in the world do we want to saddle them with more liberalism and socialism? Why would I want to do that? So I can answer it, four words, "I hope he fails." And that would be the most outrageous thing anybody in this climate could say.
Shows you just how far gone we are doesn’t it? The race industry isn't going to go away, and the fact that America's original sin of slavery is going to be absolved, it's not going to happen. It just isn't folks. It's too big a business for the left to keep all those things alive that divide the people of this country into groups that are against each other. Yes, I'm fired up about this. By the way, Mr. Obama got voted gun salesman of the year for 2008 – wonder why that is?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/01 ... gun-sales/
I'm honored to be the last man standing. I could say I hope he fails and I could do a brief explanation of why. You know what, I want to win. Even if the majority of “kool-aid” drinking Obamorons don't, I do. I’ve worked VERY hard to get to where I am in life and I’m not jumping on the bandwagon to start helping out the dolts in this country who have no ambition, desire or pride to help themselves or their families. I didn’t buy a house I couldn’t afford and I certainly never asked to be subsidized, have my health care paid for me or any other government “entitlement.” I’ve earned it by a process called determination & hard work – something lacking in today’s breed of fat, lazy Americans.
$700 BILLION bailout with stink-eye Pelosi asking for $835 BILLION more while in the same breath saying we need to remove Bush’s tax cuts immediately and start spending to get this economy on track. So by using that same logic if I fall behind on my house payments, the only way for me to get back on track is to spend money on a new Mercedes? Makes perfect sense….I can’t pay my bills so I’ll just spend my way into prosperity.
Just for the record, this cartoon was drawn over 15 years ago ….
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What I find strange about the Obama mass hysteria is, what has this man done in the past that would qualify him to be president?
It all started about 3 years ago when he gave some speech in congress.
All the Dem's thought, ooooh he talks pretty good, lets get behind this guy.
Funny when roving reporters ask ordinary citizens on the street why they voted for him and they answer with, because we need a change....
What change is that? And hope?
So what specific changes are we to be hopeful for?
Not one person polled could name anything this man had done for this country.
Just voting present on key legislative issues is not enough in my view.
Or being a community volunteer certainly does not qualify you to be president.
And I will also add, that as far as I know, BO has not shown any proof whatsoever that he is a natural born citizen, which is a requirement to run for the office of president. There are quite a few lawsuits right now demanding that he produce his birth certificate.
The so called Certificate of Live Birth floating around the internet has been shown to be fake if not a complete forgery.
If he is shown to be a non citizen then he becomes an usurper and has no authority as president whatsoever. And anything he does or has done as president will become null and void.
He was so vague on the details of what he would do I quickly was turned off by him.
Yes I am a conservative, not a republican.
As far as I'm concerned the republicans have drifted so far from the values of conservatism that they are pretty liberal by comparison to republicans of only a few years back.
I won't go as far to say that I hope he fails but now that the Dems have control of the senate and the presidency, we are at their mercy for any and all socialistic plans that they have for us.
Do you really expect the government to help you with everything in life?
Or do you think that government should get out of the business of controlling everything we do and say.
If the libs get their way and invoke the "Fairness Doctrine" we should all be very scared what will happen next to our rights as a citizen of these United States.
It all started about 3 years ago when he gave some speech in congress.
All the Dem's thought, ooooh he talks pretty good, lets get behind this guy.
Funny when roving reporters ask ordinary citizens on the street why they voted for him and they answer with, because we need a change....
What change is that? And hope?
So what specific changes are we to be hopeful for?
Not one person polled could name anything this man had done for this country.
Just voting present on key legislative issues is not enough in my view.
Or being a community volunteer certainly does not qualify you to be president.
And I will also add, that as far as I know, BO has not shown any proof whatsoever that he is a natural born citizen, which is a requirement to run for the office of president. There are quite a few lawsuits right now demanding that he produce his birth certificate.
The so called Certificate of Live Birth floating around the internet has been shown to be fake if not a complete forgery.
If he is shown to be a non citizen then he becomes an usurper and has no authority as president whatsoever. And anything he does or has done as president will become null and void.
He was so vague on the details of what he would do I quickly was turned off by him.
Yes I am a conservative, not a republican.
As far as I'm concerned the republicans have drifted so far from the values of conservatism that they are pretty liberal by comparison to republicans of only a few years back.
I won't go as far to say that I hope he fails but now that the Dems have control of the senate and the presidency, we are at their mercy for any and all socialistic plans that they have for us.
Do you really expect the government to help you with everything in life?
Or do you think that government should get out of the business of controlling everything we do and say.
If the libs get their way and invoke the "Fairness Doctrine" we should all be very scared what will happen next to our rights as a citizen of these United States.
Tom
Don't let that smoke out!
Don't let that smoke out!
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Tom,
+1
I agree, the republicans have lost it. I don't hate the rich and I don't pity the poor. I believe in taking personal responsibility for your own actions.
President Hussein is not my saviour, my beacon in the dark or some messiah.... the man can deliver a good speech. Fortunately, I'm immune from the effects of that "drug" - unlike the rest of the country.
+1
I agree, the republicans have lost it. I don't hate the rich and I don't pity the poor. I believe in taking personal responsibility for your own actions.
President Hussein is not my saviour, my beacon in the dark or some messiah.... the man can deliver a good speech. Fortunately, I'm immune from the effects of that "drug" - unlike the rest of the country.
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+1
Equality:
Everyone pays the same taxes
Every industry pays/charges the same market rate
Everyone faces the same college admissions standards
No one is judged based on the color of their skin
I'm not old enough to remember "Whites Only", but my wife was turned away from a school because of the color of her skin (reason give for denial, "Required to meet certian diversity quotas").
How about we work for equal opportunity rather than equal outcome. The true glass ceiling in the US hits you on the head when you actually meet success and have to pay a horde of lawyers and accountants to stop the goverment from stealing your money under the threat of imprisonment so they can support an inefficient business/industry or enable irresponsible people to continue in their marginal lifestyles.
I wish Obama and his family good health and a peaceful life and I'll be praying that God would change his heart. But I'm with the rest of you. I can't support the policies he aspouses.
"We havestaked the whole future of the American civilization not upon the power of government, far form it. We have staked the future on the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God"
-James Madison, the "Father of the US Constitution"
"The question we ask today is not whether our government is too big or too small, but whether it works - whether it helps families find jobs at a decent wage, care they can afford, a retirement that is dignified. Where the answer is yes, we intend to move forward."
-Obama, right after he pledging before God to uphold that Constitution
Equality:
Everyone pays the same taxes
Every industry pays/charges the same market rate
Everyone faces the same college admissions standards
No one is judged based on the color of their skin
I'm not old enough to remember "Whites Only", but my wife was turned away from a school because of the color of her skin (reason give for denial, "Required to meet certian diversity quotas").
How about we work for equal opportunity rather than equal outcome. The true glass ceiling in the US hits you on the head when you actually meet success and have to pay a horde of lawyers and accountants to stop the goverment from stealing your money under the threat of imprisonment so they can support an inefficient business/industry or enable irresponsible people to continue in their marginal lifestyles.
I wish Obama and his family good health and a peaceful life and I'll be praying that God would change his heart. But I'm with the rest of you. I can't support the policies he aspouses.
"We havestaked the whole future of the American civilization not upon the power of government, far form it. We have staked the future on the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God"
-James Madison, the "Father of the US Constitution"
"The question we ask today is not whether our government is too big or too small, but whether it works - whether it helps families find jobs at a decent wage, care they can afford, a retirement that is dignified. Where the answer is yes, we intend to move forward."
-Obama, right after he pledging before God to uphold that Constitution
"In this world you will find hardship and trials; but take heart, for I have conqured the world."
John 16:33
John 16:33
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Well, #1– It's the law. He gets a chance because he was constitutionally elected to the office of President of the United States. I didn't vote for him because I'm a conservative, not a liberal.stink wrote:... "Well, I hope he succeeds. We've got to give him a chance." Why?...
He could succeed because he makes the right choices. How you try to fix the economic problems we have is not a necessarily a liberal or conservative choice.
Was Bush a liberal for pushing the $750 billion bailout?
Should "unsuccessful companies" be left to fail? That makes some sense to me.
I don't know yet what is going to be done. The "Experts" don't seem to know what's the right thing to do. Talk to ten different economists and get ten different opinions.
Can a President do anything to affect the economy?
If the right things are done, will we even know in four years?
If somebody doesn't have some success in plotting a course out of this debacle, we will all be the worse for it.
Would I rather a Republican had a chance to do it? Yes!
Does a Republican get a chance to do it? Not for four years, at least.
Do I want to be worse off in four years? Absolutely not!
Therefore, I hope that Obama plots the correct course or, at least does nothing to impede the self-healing the world market economy might do on its own.
If conditions improve under Obama, he'll get the credit, deserved or not, just like Bush got the blame for the downturn, though it wasn't his fault.
My fear is that no one will do the right thing!
Tim
In case the NSA is listening, KMA!
In case the NSA is listening, KMA!
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Whoa! I take it this is not the place to post Bush jokes! Ok....I'm Canadian so it's none of my bees wax ...gotcha!Stew
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God Bless Us Everyone.
I think he is a man that the majority of our country will stand behind. This is bound to strengthen our stand in the world. There are some huge worldwide issues going on now with economy, war, and recources. The more united and stronger we can be, the better for all Americans. He is also a hell-of a speaker which in reality is his main job.
I think he is a man that the majority of our country will stand behind. This is bound to strengthen our stand in the world. There are some huge worldwide issues going on now with economy, war, and recources. The more united and stronger we can be, the better for all Americans. He is also a hell-of a speaker which in reality is his main job.
I've got blisters on my fingers!