List of fuses for vintage Fender amps * Good/Bad Fuse Mfgs?

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Re: List of fuses for vintage Fender amps * Good/Bad Fuse Mfgs?

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I really can't hear the difference with cryo treated fuses. But that's just one man's opinion. I actually only prefer cryo treatment for Strat bridge parts and tremolo arms, but I don't want to derail this thread. Back to fuses...

These are available:

http://www.revolutionpower.com/p/HiFi-d ... 4Aod6S4ASA

In all the current ratings you need.
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Oh, you can't hear the difference.

Anyone else?
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alvarezh wrote:Quite a collection there Topp!

The Fender "Stand Alone Reverb" unit is not an amplifier, so no output wattage there.

Now,allow me to explain something: Tube Amplifiers (and many other devices like transmitters) -but lets concentrate on tube amps- have at least three (that I know of)measurements that are taken in Watts. You have the amps complete power consumption in Watts. On the Fenders, they have them printed close to the fuse socket (not all have them BTW) . Your Twin Reverb II should be close to 300 Watts of power consumption. Then you have output power (or energy output) of the amp. Again, using the above mentioned Twin as an example, it is, as you have stated, 105 Watts. The third measurement taken in Watts is your tube dissipation. This is the energy released by the tube's elements, mainly the plate.

If you knew this then please accept my apologies! All the best.
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Re: List of fuses for vintage Fender amps * Good/Bad Fuse Mfgs?

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vibratoking wrote:I've heard that Littlefuse is a good manufacturer, but nothing new. Only the old stuff made in the 50s and 60s. Chinese and Indian fuses, old and new, have too many impurites, are not oxygen free and do not have an aligned crystal lattice. These are especially bad if you are using a 12GA power cord with an aligned crystal lattice. It's much better to have no alignment at all in your system rather than have mixed alignment. Same goes for oxygen free and oxygen full. This causes noise in your system due to boundary condition discontinuities that occur as the electrons transition the lattice boundary and impinge upon the first microns of the unaligned lattice via drift. I think there are some papers written on this somewhere on the interwebs. If you are really stuck using product from inferior manufacturers, then carefully and completely wrap your fuse with the foil from a stick of Juicy Fruit. I've used this technique with good results when I've been stuck. Juciy Fruit is my desert island foil for sure. Plus it gives me an excuse to buy that tooth rotting, sugary confection.

American Oxygen-Free Littlefuse it is.
Anything from EAST of Hawaii is bad :shock:
Good to know.


Wrap the fuses in Juicy Fruit gum foil?
If I buy Little fuse, will Juicy Fruit foil not be needed?
Will the fuses get cavities?
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Re: List of fuses for vintage Fender amps * Good/Bad Fuse Mfgs?

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vibratoking wrote:I really can't hear the difference with cryo treated fuses. But that's just one man's opinion. I actually only prefer cryo treatment for Strat bridge parts and tremolo arms, but I don't want to derail this thread. Back to fuses...

These are available: http://www.revolutionpower.com/p/HiFi-d ... 4Aod6S4ASA

In all the current ratings you need.


$85 for a FUSE :!: :!: :!: :shock:
Well at least they offer FREE SHIPPING :lol:



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Re: List of fuses for vintage Fender amps * Good/Bad Fuse Mfgs?

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Here's a 19 page thread extolling the virtues of those HIFI fuses.

http://www.whatsbestforum.com/showthrea ... hile-Fuses
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:lol: You guys are MEAN! :D

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LeftyStrat wrote:Here's a 19 page thread extolling the virtues of those HIFI fuses. http://www.whatsbestforum.com/showthrea ... hile-Fuses

$85 and 19 pages :!: :!: I'd rather take a date to a movie and soda :lol: :lol:

No really. I'll glance through that thread.

But, honestly tell me, does ANYBODY use $85 Hi-Fi Tuning or Isoclean fuses
within any of their guitar amplifiers? I can imagine a master PA system using
expensive fuses or a 24 channel PA mixing board, but $500-$4000 amps? PLMK.

I believe after several discussions with TAG members, that using
an autotransformer variac and a Furman PL-Plus line conditioner
will do the job for vintage amps and will be money better spent.
Unless HI-FI fuses are of great value?


What do you think?

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alvarezh wrote:Tomorrow is a holiday here, I am going out to check out the skirts!
Good night guys!
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Well Topp, as technicians, they should at least know how well we probe Hi Tension places. And how, as amp builders, we have the ability to electrify devices to give their owners some pleasure!!!!!!!! :wink:

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This is OCD funny stuff. A fuse is a fuse. You have fast-blo and slo-blo in various ratings. Majority of Fender amps take 2 amp slo-blo. Every 5 years or so I buy another 5 pack of LittleFuse 2 amp slo-blo and put them in my gig bag. Sometimes when someone's fuse blows from mechanical, temperature or spike stress, I'm the guy who has one to replace it. If it's due to a failure, it doesn't matter anyway if the amp is face down on the mat.

Just get a few 5 packs in various sizes, and stop over thinking it.
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Re: List of fuses for vintage Fender amps * Good/Bad Fuse Mfgs?

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Randall wrote:This is OCD funny stuff. A fuse is a fuse. You have fast-blo and slo-blo in various ratings. Majority of Fender amps take 2 amp slo-blo. Every 5 years or so I buy another 5 pack of LittleFuse 2 amp slo-blo and put them in my gig bag. Sometimes when someone's fuse blows from mechanical, temperature or spike stress, I'm the guy who has one to replace it. If it's due to a failure, it doesn't matter anyway if the amp is face down on the mat. Just get a few 5 packs in various sizes, and stop over thinking it.

Randall. Following are my vintage amps.
How many use 2-amp fuses? Two.

(4A) = 1983 Twin Reverb II 105w Amp Head
(2½A) = 1964 2x12 Twin Reverb 85w Combo Amp
(2A) = 1964 2x10 Super Reverb 40w Combo Amp
(3A) = 1954 5D6 4x10 Bassman 40w Combo Amp
(2½A) = 1968 Dual Showman Reverb TFL5000D 100w Amp Head
(3A) = 1960 6G4 2x10 Super Amp 40w Combo Amp
(2 1/2A) = 1983 1x12 Concert II 60w Combo Amp
(¾A) = 1962 Fender Reverb Tank Unit (anybody know output wattage)
(2A) = 1968 Bandmaster Reverb TFL5005D 40w Amp Head


Anyway, they are cheap. I understand Littlefuse is a good brand.
Maybe there will be Littlefuse multipacks :lol:
Bottom line, just want them for backup. Toppscore :)
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