I'm looking to build a bass amp for my friend.
I have PT / OT transformers i pulled from a 100watt 4 - 6L6 tube PA.
(The output transformer is 2.4k primary)
My first thought was a Fender Bassman 100.
But is it really a good amp for Bass guitar?
Most people i see play it use it for guitar.
Would it need any mods to make it more suitable?
Any suggestions or recommendations for a different amp would be great.
or.. have you built anything with similar tubes / transformer?
100watt Bass Amp build - suggestions?
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Re: 100watt Bass Amp build - suggestions?
How loud do you need to play, and do you play a 5 string and how many speakers will you be playing thru?
If you play with a hard hitting drummer in a 2 guitar band and they play thru 4-12 speaker cabs each than 100 watts of clean power played thru 4-10 or 2-15" speakers will cut it, but if you will play thru only 2-10s or just 1-15" you will be on the edge, also if you thump on a low B string you will need more than 100 watts of clean power and either that 4-10 or 2-15 cabinet!
Projection of Bass frequencys takes far greater power than for 6 string guitar, and playing thru 2 speakers compared to just 1 will near double the sound output level where as if you wanted to do such with wattage you would need near 10 times the wattage!!
If you play with a hard hitting drummer in a 2 guitar band and they play thru 4-12 speaker cabs each than 100 watts of clean power played thru 4-10 or 2-15" speakers will cut it, but if you will play thru only 2-10s or just 1-15" you will be on the edge, also if you thump on a low B string you will need more than 100 watts of clean power and either that 4-10 or 2-15 cabinet!
Projection of Bass frequencys takes far greater power than for 6 string guitar, and playing thru 2 speakers compared to just 1 will near double the sound output level where as if you wanted to do such with wattage you would need near 10 times the wattage!!
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Re: 100watt Bass Amp build - suggestions?
My client and I had good luck with a low power tube amp (SE, one KT88 for about 25 watts clean) with a line-out tapped off the output (and a dummy load to silence the amp) and then for large gigs he runs the line-out into a 600watt solid state amp and a huge 8x10 cab. Rockin'.
I build and repair tube amps. http://amps.monkeymatic.com
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Re: 100watt Bass Amp build - suggestions?
sounds cool xtian, but doesn't work with what i have.
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Re: 100watt Bass Amp build - suggestions?
I'd like to understand the reasoning behind that statement.Stevem wrote: and playing thru 2 speakers compared to just 1 will near double the sound output level where as if you wanted to do such with wattage you would need near 10 times the wattage!!
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Re: 100watt Bass Amp build - suggestions?
If it were not for the need for a separate heater transformer, I'd say use a quad of 6550s and let 'em loaf. EL34s won't work either.
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Re: 100watt Bass Amp build - suggestions?
Doubling of the number of speakers you play thru will double the SPL level pretty much where as to get that same spl level increase with the output wattage of a amp you have have to for example step up to a 100 watt amp if you where previously playing thru a 10 watt amp!
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Not screaming like the passengers in his car!
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Re: 100watt Bass Amp build - suggestions?
Doubling the number of speakers is the same as doubling the amplifier power... you get 3dB SPL.
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Re: 100watt Bass Amp build - suggestions?
There is actual volume (dB) and perceived volume - how much are your ears hearing? I don't claim to know the answer, I just know adding an additional speaker doesn't make it twice as loud, but you get twice the coverage.
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