Princeton Reverb AA1164 tremolo no working...

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Princeton Reverb AA1164 tremolo no working...

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Hi there!
I finished a princeton reverb vintage clone. It sounds very nice, evrey thing is ok except tremolo :(
After two days of unsuccessful investigation, I'm asking for help.
what I'v done:

- double/triple checked wiring
- no footswitch installed, regarding the schematic, tremolo doesn't need footswitch to work.
- installed a bias pot, instead fixed bias circuit. 'Cause I read too hot bias affects tremolo... now the amp is biased at 20mA for 410V plate. Still no tremolo...
- tried 4 differents 12ax7 tubes, and swapped with v3 and v1... no tremolo
- the blue wire to "vibrato pedal" connector is NOT grounded
- here are the voltages on v4: p1: 396v p3: 6.8v p6: 260v p8: 67v

I don't really know what I'm looking for... variation of DC current? AC current somewhere? I read that the tremolo is an oscillator which affects bias current. How can I test the oscillator circuit? v4 p1 is not "swinging"...does it have to "swing"

Thanks!

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Re: Princeton Reverb AA1164 tremolo no working...

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V4 pins 1, 2, and 3 are the trem oscillator. Pin 1 should be swinging. You can see a smooth swing with a scope or analog meter. The swing just looks like erratic numbers on a digital meter.

Your high pin 1 voltage indicates the tube is not conducting. But your pin 3 voltage is also high which would indicate the tube should be conducting. Maybe you have a wrong value cathode resistor. With power off, measure resistance from pin 3 to chassis. Connect your meter directly to pin 3 on the socket. Reading should be 3300Ω. What have you?
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Re: Princeton Reverb AA1164 tremolo no working...

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Thanks Sluckey, you point the right direction!
The cathod resistor labeled 3k3 in the package was 3M3... now everything's right.
Finally we can trust only one thing: the digital METER!... and this forum

thanks again :D
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Re: Princeton Reverb AA1164 tremolo no working...

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There is supposed to be a 3M3 resistor in the reverb mixer circuit. ***IF*** you have mistakenly put a 3K3 resistor in that position the reverb will be weak if any. Might be worth verifying there is a 3M3 in that position.
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Re: Princeton Reverb AA1164 tremolo no working...

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It was the first thing I thinked about... but no. Just one mistake, finally.
Now the amp is running. Thx again!
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Re: Princeton Reverb AA1164 tremolo no working...

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The first rule of amp repair and or building is to check every resistor on your meter and get a ESR meter to test every new cap!
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