Hi there!
I finished a princeton reverb vintage clone. It sounds very nice, evrey thing is ok except tremolo
After two days of unsuccessful investigation, I'm asking for help.
what I'v done:
- double/triple checked wiring
- no footswitch installed, regarding the schematic, tremolo doesn't need footswitch to work.
- installed a bias pot, instead fixed bias circuit. 'Cause I read too hot bias affects tremolo... now the amp is biased at 20mA for 410V plate. Still no tremolo...
- tried 4 differents 12ax7 tubes, and swapped with v3 and v1... no tremolo
- the blue wire to "vibrato pedal" connector is NOT grounded
- here are the voltages on v4: p1: 396v p3: 6.8v p6: 260v p8: 67v
I don't really know what I'm looking for... variation of DC current? AC current somewhere? I read that the tremolo is an oscillator which affects bias current. How can I test the oscillator circuit? v4 p1 is not "swinging"...does it have to "swing"
Thanks!
schem: http://fenderguru.com/wp-content/upload ... layout.jpg
Princeton Reverb AA1164 tremolo no working...
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Re: Princeton Reverb AA1164 tremolo no working...
V4 pins 1, 2, and 3 are the trem oscillator. Pin 1 should be swinging. You can see a smooth swing with a scope or analog meter. The swing just looks like erratic numbers on a digital meter.
Your high pin 1 voltage indicates the tube is not conducting. But your pin 3 voltage is also high which would indicate the tube should be conducting. Maybe you have a wrong value cathode resistor. With power off, measure resistance from pin 3 to chassis. Connect your meter directly to pin 3 on the socket. Reading should be 3300Ω. What have you?
Your high pin 1 voltage indicates the tube is not conducting. But your pin 3 voltage is also high which would indicate the tube should be conducting. Maybe you have a wrong value cathode resistor. With power off, measure resistance from pin 3 to chassis. Connect your meter directly to pin 3 on the socket. Reading should be 3300Ω. What have you?
Re: Princeton Reverb AA1164 tremolo no working...
Thanks Sluckey, you point the right direction!
The cathod resistor labeled 3k3 in the package was 3M3... now everything's right.
Finally we can trust only one thing: the digital METER!... and this forum
thanks again
The cathod resistor labeled 3k3 in the package was 3M3... now everything's right.
Finally we can trust only one thing: the digital METER!... and this forum
thanks again
Re: Princeton Reverb AA1164 tremolo no working...
There is supposed to be a 3M3 resistor in the reverb mixer circuit. ***IF*** you have mistakenly put a 3K3 resistor in that position the reverb will be weak if any. Might be worth verifying there is a 3M3 in that position.
Re: Princeton Reverb AA1164 tremolo no working...
It was the first thing I thinked about... but no. Just one mistake, finally.
Now the amp is running. Thx again!
Now the amp is running. Thx again!
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Re: Princeton Reverb AA1164 tremolo no working...
The first rule of amp repair and or building is to check every resistor on your meter and get a ESR meter to test every new cap!
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