How would you approach this sound?

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JamesO
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How would you approach this sound?

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Hi everyone

I'm taking a second crack at a Dumble-esq amp. I enjoyed my D'Lite but there was a space to the sound I couldn't seem to dial in. It was an enjoyable learning experience though after building a Machless clone last year and I'm glad I did it.

I really like the sound of the Two-Rock Opal. I played one at Union Grove Music in Santa Cruz and was in love with the big space the sound had. This video demonstrates it well: http://youtube.com/watch?v=gfXUb1g1xLA

Where would I find this type of sound? ODS? HRM?
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There was a good thread at The Gear Page that described the general circuit used in most Two Rock amps. I'm too tired to dig it up for you tonight, but I'll see if I can find it tomorrow.

Off the top of my head, I seem to recall most of their amps being non-HRM with classic Fender AB163 plate/cathode resistor values. I don't think the tone stack was a skyliner, but I'm half asleep at the moment so I could be wrong. In any event, I'm not sure if this is the same circuit used in the Opal.
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Here it is: http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showth ... p?t=228018

Guess it's a skyliner after all.
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lol, that's my thread. I met Larry through that thread and tried the values from the schematic he gave me in the D'Lite. They didn't seem to work out for me.
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I seem to recall most of their amps being non-HRM with classic Fender AB163 plate/cathode resistor values.
Thats what that clip sounds like to me -
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The video to me sounds like a non-HRM built off the stock values on the HiGain schematic on this board with a 120pf bright switch. If your D'lite had 100 watt headroom and the same speakers/guitar it could sound just like this. Don't forget to borrow the guy who's constantly changing the settings.
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JamesO
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Cool. Thanks, guys. This gives me some good stuff to follow.
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JamesO wrote:lol, that's my thread. I met Larry through that thread and tried the values from the schematic he gave me in the D'Lite. They didn't seem to work out for me.
D'OH! :lol:
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THe Opal is HRM and has a switch on the front panel that "Bypasses" the internal tonestack by lifting the ground on the mid control.

It is also a "Wireless" amp, so V1 is located right under the Jack and as little wire as possible is used.
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Don't forget to borrow the guy who's constantly changing the settings.
LOL! That was great 8)
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Re: How would you approach this sound?

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yeah, where can I get one of those guys? no store I've been to has them in stock! :lol:
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