Need help debugging a PR trem

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Re: Need help debugging a PR trem

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Bad cap. The first .01 after the .02 coupling cap. It tested OK for both capacitance and DC but when I heated the joint to unsolder it, the lead pulled away from the body before I even touched it with the needlenose.

The three mods (attached schematic) I got off the net I don't know how long ago all increase the trem strength.

Many thankings! Skip
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Very happy to hear you found it!
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That's why I wasn't too hesitant to rip out that section of the board. Sometimes I wiggle parts or overheat them or pull and replace them to the point that I have to suspect foul play. Occasionally they are just bad on their own but that usually shows when I first test the values. Cheers, sh
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Good news, congrats!
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Awesome.

Good job!!!!

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Ready to play, thanks all, sh
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Very nice! Did you try the diode across the intensity pot? I'm curious as to what that sounds like.
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Hi Martin,

I think the main reason for it is to reduce some of the thumping these half-tube circuits get. Mine wasn't thumpy after I got that cap out of there but I left the diode in.

Here is a link to the discussion on that. It refers to a dead link where I got the schematic some years ago -- part of the permanent library so to speak. This discussion works the topic over fairly well even without the original source so I hope it helps. sh

http://www.fenderforum.com/forum.html?d ... ber=445645
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Thanks, that adds some good background info. I was wondering if there is any difference in the character of the effect due to the half-wave shape. You could also use a Zener (12V or so) to limit the negative swing and get more of a square wave. You could try that out by paralleling a Zener across the existing diode.
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I've used the diode on the intensity pot too. It improves the trem action quite markedly
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