Shipping costs going up?
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Re: Shipping costs going up?
As far as CED, you can ask them to fold it up in order to put it in a smaller package that will ship for less. I put this in the notes before completing the order and they adjust the price before they actually charge you... This works with the other sister companies they run as well.
Also, when you need to ship something out, try https://www.pirateship.com/
A customer shipped an amp head to me for a little over $31 via UPS. I returned it to him for a little over $19.
Also, when you need to ship something out, try https://www.pirateship.com/
A customer shipped an amp head to me for a little over $31 via UPS. I returned it to him for a little over $19.
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Re: Shipping costs going up?
One diode from Mouser $0.49, shipping $7.99!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, something not right!
Yeah, something not right!
Re: Shipping costs going up?
All of the parts distributors don't really have a method for shipping outside of their normal parcel/maybe large envelope method. You try shipping anything (even a grain of sand) for less in a box or large envelope.
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Re: Shipping costs going up?
mouser has been like this since i started ordering from them 15 years ago. just like most places it only makes sense when ordering enough stuff to fill the box (so order extras)
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Re: Shipping costs going up?
I had to ship out a Pedal Baby today... 9lbs 15x11x6 box. Reverb wanted to give a discounted rate of $30+, used Pirate Ship and it cost a little over $16. Same shipper - UPS.
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Re: Shipping costs going up?
Hasn’t been this much, maybe half the price. Been ordering from Mouser for over 35 years though…thetragichero wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 2:31 pmmouser has been like this since i started ordering from them 15 years ago. just like most places it only makes sense when ordering enough stuff to fill the box (so order extras)
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Re: Shipping costs going up?
$7.99 is the minimum shipping cost I'e seen for years.
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Re: Shipping costs going up?
mhuss has it right. While some shippers do game the system and make "shipping" mean "cost of shipping plus whatever else we can get", I've never seen Mouser or other mainline distributors abuse it this way. Mouser has been at about $7 - $8 for a long time.
Priority mail has been flat rate at ... um... $5 - $8 for a long time. Mouser is offering something like that through UPS.
As mhuss notes, you can ship a (free) grain of sand and it will still cost you the minimum shipping cost.
I completely do not understand the issue with a $0.49 diode costing $8 to ship. Shipping an empty packet in the minimum sized box would still cost $8, largely because of UPS, not Mouser.
Priority mail has been flat rate at ... um... $5 - $8 for a long time. Mouser is offering something like that through UPS.
As mhuss notes, you can ship a (free) grain of sand and it will still cost you the minimum shipping cost.
I completely do not understand the issue with a $0.49 diode costing $8 to ship. Shipping an empty packet in the minimum sized box would still cost $8, largely because of UPS, not Mouser.
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Re: Shipping costs going up?
Shipping has gone up about 25% in the last six months. I shipped two speakers to Australia today, USPS calculator says $193 with $400 insured value. When I put in the label data, it came back with $202, plus a $14 surcharge to insure it for $400. you get $200 with USPS PM automatically, so that's a 7% surcharge for $200 worth of insurance. By the time it was all over, I undercharged the client $14 plus the 5.6% PayPal fees they charge to non USA clients.
Basically it was a surprise $15 plus extra.
I shipped two speakers to OZ for $153 at the end of last year.
Robbery, plain and simple.
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Basically it was a surprise $15 plus extra.
I shipped two speakers to OZ for $153 at the end of last year.
Robbery, plain and simple.
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Re: Shipping costs going up?
Let's play Engineering Economics.
Shipping costs cannot long term be lower than the cost of the fuel to move the goods, plus the amortized capital cost of the vehicle, plus the labor involved.
That is, it costs some money to buy a truck (airplane, ship, horse and cart, packpack, etc.) to carry the goods, and it costs some money to pay the person/people operating the vehicle, and it costs some money to pay for the fuel to do the journey. There's other expenses on top of that, of course, but let's stay with the basic costs. Someone may give you a gift of transporting your goods for cheaper than the fuel, labor and apportioned vehicle costs, but they can't do that for long, as they are in effect shoveling money out of their bank account to pay for your shipping.
We just had a sudden increase in fuel cost, pretty much world wide. Unless a shipper increased their prices, they are shoveling money out and subsidizing your shipping.
Worse, the increase in energy (fuel) costs has started working its way into that supply chain thing. More expensive fuel means it costs more to transport truck parts to the truck factory, etc.; and it costs more to fuel the furnaces to make the metal/plastic/etc.
Think green-ness helps? It costs more to run the tractors to plant/cultivate/harvest the green goods to make stuff. Recycling? It costs more to fuel the grinders/sorters/melters/etc./etc. that do the recycling. An increase in basic fuel cost affects >>everything<<.
Think renewable energy will help? Have you looked at the cost to build, erect, maintain, and decommission a windmill? It's not clear that these costs are less than the "free" electricity produced.
Solar panels? Have you looked at the pay-out period for buying a solar panel setup, installing it, cleaning off the dust and crud, maintaining the panels, wiring and converters to have that electricity be usable, and the replacement costs? And the non-solar energy cost of making the panels, wires, fittings, converters and such, as well as the labor to install them. It's by no means clear that a solar panel installation will produce more electricity than the fuel costs it took to have it run until it wears out.
Engineering economics, said simply, defines money as the amount of (dollars, Euros, rubles, marks, yen, yuan, etc.) to buy the energy embodied in a gallon of gasoline or fuel oil. After that, you can have a reasonable discussion about how many watt-hours you really got for the watt-hours you spent to set it up.
Of course, business people are very close watchers of the market, and they know full well to never waste a perfectly good crisis. Any time something changes, it's likely that there will be an attempt to make you pay more. Humans (including owners of shipping companies) are like that.
Shipping costs cannot long term be lower than the cost of the fuel to move the goods, plus the amortized capital cost of the vehicle, plus the labor involved.
That is, it costs some money to buy a truck (airplane, ship, horse and cart, packpack, etc.) to carry the goods, and it costs some money to pay the person/people operating the vehicle, and it costs some money to pay for the fuel to do the journey. There's other expenses on top of that, of course, but let's stay with the basic costs. Someone may give you a gift of transporting your goods for cheaper than the fuel, labor and apportioned vehicle costs, but they can't do that for long, as they are in effect shoveling money out of their bank account to pay for your shipping.
We just had a sudden increase in fuel cost, pretty much world wide. Unless a shipper increased their prices, they are shoveling money out and subsidizing your shipping.
Worse, the increase in energy (fuel) costs has started working its way into that supply chain thing. More expensive fuel means it costs more to transport truck parts to the truck factory, etc.; and it costs more to fuel the furnaces to make the metal/plastic/etc.
Think green-ness helps? It costs more to run the tractors to plant/cultivate/harvest the green goods to make stuff. Recycling? It costs more to fuel the grinders/sorters/melters/etc./etc. that do the recycling. An increase in basic fuel cost affects >>everything<<.
Think renewable energy will help? Have you looked at the cost to build, erect, maintain, and decommission a windmill? It's not clear that these costs are less than the "free" electricity produced.
Solar panels? Have you looked at the pay-out period for buying a solar panel setup, installing it, cleaning off the dust and crud, maintaining the panels, wiring and converters to have that electricity be usable, and the replacement costs? And the non-solar energy cost of making the panels, wires, fittings, converters and such, as well as the labor to install them. It's by no means clear that a solar panel installation will produce more electricity than the fuel costs it took to have it run until it wears out.
Engineering economics, said simply, defines money as the amount of (dollars, Euros, rubles, marks, yen, yuan, etc.) to buy the energy embodied in a gallon of gasoline or fuel oil. After that, you can have a reasonable discussion about how many watt-hours you really got for the watt-hours you spent to set it up.
Of course, business people are very close watchers of the market, and they know full well to never waste a perfectly good crisis. Any time something changes, it's likely that there will be an attempt to make you pay more. Humans (including owners of shipping companies) are like that.
I don't "believe" in science. I trust science. Science works, whether I believe in it or not.