2rd Gen 100W hybrid completed
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2rd Gen 100W hybrid completed
Here's the board mocked up with the same values as the one called #40.
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- David Root
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Re: 2rd Gen 100W hybrid completed
Excellent period parts detail! You must have quite a stock! You will love it. I did a 50W very similar last year.
Just noticed this, maybe it's the lighting in the pic but the TS slope resistor looks like 100R, not 100K.
Just noticed this, maybe it's the lighting in the pic but the TS slope resistor looks like 100R, not 100K.
Re: 2rd Gen 100W hybrid completed
Looks great so far..
also don't forget the 500pf ceramic across the 220k OD entrance resistor or it may oscillate..
Good Luck with the build
Tony


Good Luck with the build
Tony
Re: 2rd Gen 100W hybrid completed
Yeah, I have a lil bit, but I'm now either out or low on the common critical values.David Root wrote:Excellent period parts detail! You must have quite a stock! You will love it. I did a 50W very similar last year.
Just noticed this, maybe it's the lighting in the pic but the TS slope resistor looks like 100R, not 100K.
Thanks David good catch, it was a 100 ohm. It doesn't do any good to measure all the values if I don't install the correct value in the correct location.
The 180K to ground should be a .5W Piher, but I can't put my hands on either of the two that I thought I had. Thus, I had to use a Beyschlag instead. I'm not going to use that 1M into the relay and will most likely install a 330K with a 1M pot in series with it. Also, since I'm going have Pres control I'm going to sub in a value other than that 100 ohm tail in the GNFB circuit.
TM
Re: 2rd Gen 100W hybrid completed
Thanks Tony, yeah I'm debating on ceramic or mica.talbany wrote:Looks great so far..![]()
also don't forget the 500pf ceramic across the 220k OD entrance resistor or it may oscillate..
Good Luck with the build
Tony
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100ohm slope
I know for SURE that that value WAS used in a particular dumble, reason? It was given to me by a guy on w coast with a DUNBLE ( cloned from real thing) that was INSANELY AWESOME, nothing here at this site has ever touched it, and i can say that emphatically! I`ve heard it! It TOTALLY nailed the RF thing, i mean NAILED it..FAT, NO ugly harmonics period....sounded like a saxaphone w/KAHUNAS! Vocal quality and sustain out the yin yang..David Root wrote:Excellent period parts detail! You must have quite a stock! You will love it. I did a 50W very similar last year.
Just noticed this, maybe it's the lighting in the pic but the TS slope resistor looks like 100R, not 100K.
Omegaamps
Re: 2rd Gen 100W hybrid completed
Hi ToneMerc,ToneMerc wrote:. Also, since I'm going have Pres control I'm going to sub in a value other than that 100 ohm tail in the GNFB circuit.
TM
you don´t have to change the 100R tail. The presence mod
recommended to me by HAD himself was adding a 500R pot
in series with the presence cap. A 1 K pot also works great here.
BTW HAD told me to try different values for the cap,
from 470 nF up to 4.7 µF AFAIR.At the time I was surprised by the large range he recommended, my current favourite is 2.2 µF.
The 1 µF is a good value for the Accent switch IMHO,
but the 2.2 µF (or greater) provides more range for a real
presence control.Looking forward to your build
Marcos
Re: 2rd Gen 100W hybrid completed
The tail or the tone stack slope resistor?
Tom
Don't let that smoke out!
Don't let that smoke out!
Re: 2rd Gen 100W hybrid completed
Tom,
I was referring to the Fender-style 820R/100R GNFB loop used in the
power amp section of the 70s ODS amps.On some of amps (such as Rick Vito´s ) HAD replaced the Accent switch with a presence pot, so I wrote to him
asking about this mod.This was way back in 1986.
Marcos
I was referring to the Fender-style 820R/100R GNFB loop used in the
power amp section of the 70s ODS amps.On some of amps (such as Rick Vito´s ) HAD replaced the Accent switch with a presence pot, so I wrote to him
asking about this mod.This was way back in 1986.
Marcos
Re: 2rd Gen 100W hybrid completed
Marcos, I'm going to use either a 500 or 1K pot and a 2.2uF. A couple of years ago I picked Brandon's brain about these amps, he had recommended a 1K pot as well.marcos wrote:Hi ToneMerc,ToneMerc wrote:. Also, since I'm going have Pres control I'm going to sub in a value other than that 100 ohm tail in the GNFB circuit.
TM
you don´t have to change the 100R tail. The presence mod
recommended to me by HAD himself was adding a 500R pot
in series with the presence cap. A 1 K pot also works great here.
BTW HAD told me to try different values for the cap,
from 470 nF up to 4.7 µF AFAIR.At the time I was surprised by the large range he recommended, my current favourite is 2.2 µF.
The 1 µF is a good value for the Accent switch IMHO,
but the 2.2 µF (or greater) provides more range for a real
presence control.Looking forward to your build
Marcos
Thank you much
Mike
Chassis prep
Chassis work, phase 1.
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Re: 2rd Gen 100W hybrid completed
Tonemerc, what make and model is your PT and OT?
Re: 2rd Gen 100W hybrid completed
OT: Hammond 1650TADavid Root wrote:Tonemerc, what make and model is your PT and OT?
PT: Heyboer Twin style that I had custom wound.
Mike
Re: 2rd Gen 100W hybrid completed
Started on perimeter wiring.
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