Dumble video/sound clip reference, real Dumbles only please

[pinner]

How recent are those videos?

I want to say they are old because of the hair and guitar but I swear those look like Bludo's in his rack.

They are old but not sure when.

[Max]

3rd generation "pre-classic" Overdrive Special 50W combo with 12" Altec 417-8H Series II with a "paper dust cap mod"

Karl Ratzer: "On And On" - some crunch chords

Album: "Moondancer"

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0011Y ... 97-4756266

Karl Ratzer Artist Profile: http://www.enjarecords.com/bio.php?artist=Karl+Ratzer

Band:

Karl Ratzer – all guitars, all vocals
Oliver Kent – piano and Fender Rhodes
Heinz Jäger – bass
Lukas Knöfler – drums
Ricardo Mateus - percussion

A layout of a 3rd generation "pre-classic" Overdrive Special 50W you find here: http://ampgarage.com/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 928#136928

Cheers,

Max

[Steven_nl]

How recent are those videos?

I want to say they are old because of the hair and guitar but I swear those look like Bludo's in his rack.

They are old but not sure when.

1990 it's in the Youtube info

[pinner]

How recent are those videos?

I want to say they are old because of the hair and guitar but I swear those look like Bludo's in his rack.

They are old but not sure when.

1990 it's in the Youtube info

Yep, apparently from a 1990 gig at the Bottom Line in NY - i edited the youtube info after I found out.

[Max]

Larry Carlton with a 4th generation "classic" ODS 100W

"The B. P. Blues" from the album "Last Nite"

Guitar: Valley Arts Strat with EMG pickups

Recorded live at The Baked Potato, North Hollywood, CA
Overdubbed horn section recorded at Room 335, Hollywood, CA
Released 1986

http://www.amazon.com/Last-Nite/dp/B001 ... 8&sr=301-1

Video clips of this concert: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r974WKDMy_Q and others.

A layout of the low plate version of such a 4th generation "classic" ODS 100W you find here: http://ampgarage.com/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 327#137327

Cheers,

Max

[boldaslove6789]

Henry Kaisers SSS

http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showth ... 338&page=7

[Max]

Henry Kaisers SSS

http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showth ... 338&page=7

Hi Greg,

thanks for the link. Perhaps this Dumbleland clip is of some interest for a comparision. It has been recorded without a pedal in front. Bright off, deep off, rock on, filters in their off positions, mid accent off. The sustain and "hair" on the tone is the result of the usual DL sustain and the settings of the preamp volume control and the internal filter stage entrance trim pot:

http://ampgarage.com/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 484#130484

Have a great weekend,

Max

[boldaslove6789]

Max,

So it is known that there were 150w and 300w DL's. What wattage was the DL in the linked clip? I love the tone of it BTW, thanks. Technically if it were a 150w it should be called a Dumbleland Special right?

This is possibly the arrangements (Power wattage + tube compliment ) of most Dumbles Amps (exclude rack pre's of course)

Hotel Hog:
20w
(2 6v6's)


Overdrive Special:

50w
(2x6L6's or 4 6v6's)

100w
(early amps {#1-150} were 6L6 config, some amps after #150 used El34's)

150w (Todd Sharp)
(4x6550's)

Angles Breath:

(?)

Manzamp:

(?)

Odyssey Pwr Amp:

100w
(4x6L6's)

150w
(4x6550's)


(300w ?, Dumble said in an article I read that he made interchangeable pre and power amps so it is very possible there was high power rack amps also available)


Steel String Singer:

100w 4x6L6's
(#1-4)

150w
(6550 were standard after serial #4

Winterland:

300w
(6x6550)

400w (?)

[Max]

Max,

So it is known that there were 150w and 300w DL's. What wattage was the DL in the linked clip? I love the tone of it BTW, thanks. Technically if it were a 150w it should be called a Dumbleland Special right?

Hi Greg,

It's a 150W Dumbleland Special for guitar. In the 1978 price list there has been offered a 150W Dumbleland for bass, too (Tiran Porter a user as an example - AFAIK. BTW: there is a Doobie Brothers clip on youtube where you can get a glimpse for a 10th of a second).

This is possibly the arrangements (Power wattage + tube compliment ) of most Dumbles Amps (exclude rack pre's of course)

Here is what I know concerning this:

Hotel Hog: 20w (2 6v6's)

25W (Guitar Player interview)

Overdrive Special:
50w (2x6L6's or 4 6v6's)
100w (early amps {#1-150} were 6L6 config, some amps after #150 used El34's)

EL34 have been an option for all the 4th generation classic amps (see the 4th generation "classic" ODS data sheet on Rob Livesey's site)

150w (Todd Sharp) (4x6550's)

yes

Angles Breath: (?)

No idea.

Manzamp: (?)

AFAIK these have been called "Dumble Man-Amp" at first (1986 price list) and have been offered from 50 to 450W (Soundcheck interview). But I only have heard of a 50W example up to now and of a proto kind of preamp (EJ)

Odyssey Pwr Amp:
100w (4x6L6's)
150w (4x6550's)
(300w ?, Dumble said in an article I read that he made interchangeable pre and power amps so it is very possible there was high power rack amps also available)

Odysseys all 100W AFAIK, but maybe others with other names (Phoenix, Winterland?)

Steel String Singer:
100w 4x6L6's (#1-4)
150w (6550 were standard after serial #4

1978 price list: only 100W combo offered
1986 price list: 120W and 150W offered
90ies price list: only one version offered; probably 150W
#001 (combo),#002 and #003 (heads) are all labelled "SSS-100" on their backs

Winterland:
300w (6x6550)
400w (?)

I only know of some early 4x KT88 bass heads, reported to deliver 200W, and of one power amp (ebay many many years ago) with this name, with 8x6550 and reported to deliver 450 watt (AFAIR the ebay item description).

That's what I know from Alexander's interviews, some price lists, some ebay or dealer offers and because I am familar with some of these models.

Cheers and all the best,

Max

[Max]

Clean sound of a 3rd generation "pre-classic" Overdrive Special 50W combo with 12" Altec 417-8H Series II with a paper dust cap mod

Karl Ratzer "I Fall In Love Too Easily"

Karl Ratzer – guitar
Karl Hodina - accordion

Album: "Moondancer"

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0011Y ... 97-4756266

Karl Ratzer Artist Profile: http://www.enjarecords.com/bio.php?artist=Karl+Ratzer

A layout of a 3rd generation "pre-classic" Overdrive Special 50W you find here: http://ampgarage.com/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 928#136928

Don't miss Karl Hodina playing his accordion!

Cheers,

Max

[dr. who]

SSS #004

Don Grosh ElectraJet > Vintage TS-808 (melody/solo) > Dumble Steel String Singer > Aracom Attenuator for 4>16 ohm conversion > Vocal Booth VB Amp iso booth > Avatar 1x12 open back cab loaded with a Scumback M75-HP-LHDC > Royer 121 > Avalon M5 mic pre > Pro Tools...
http://www.getkillertone.com/audio/Dumb ... hTS808.mp3
[img:800:598]http://www.getkillertone.com/images/Dum ... oshGKT.jpg[/img]

Epiphone Riviera > Dumble Steel String Singer > Aracom Attenuator for 4>16 ohm conversion > Vocal Booth VB Amp iso booth > Avatar 1x12 open back cab loaded with a Scumback M75-HP-LHDC > Royer 121 > Avalon M5 mic pre > Pro Tools...
http://www.getkillertone.com/audio/Dumb ... iviera.mp3
[img:800:598]http://www.getkillertone.com/images/Dum ... eraGKT.jpg[/img]

Critter's G&L Will Ray Signature Model > Dumble Steel String Singer (FET input!!!) > Aracom Attenuator for 4>16 ohm conversion > VocalBooth VB Amp iso booth > Avatar 1x12 open back cab loaded with a Scumback M75-HP-LHDC > Royer 121 > Avalon M5 mic pre > Pro Tools...
http://www.getkillertone.com/audio/Dumb ... illRay.mp3
[img]http:854:638]http://www.getkillertone.com/images/Dum ... comGKT.jpg[/img]

Critter's Ibanez JEM 7VWh > Dumble Steel String Singer > Eventide Time Factor in loop > Aracom Attenuator for 4>16 ohm conversion > VocalBooth VB Amp iso booth > Avatar 1x12 open back cab loaded with a Scumback M75-HP-LHDC > Royer 121 > Avalon M5 mic pre > Pro Tools...
http://www.getkillertone.com/audio/Dumb ... gNotes.mp3
[img:854:638]http://www.getkillertone.com/images/Dum ... comGKT.jpg[/img]

Don Grosh ElectraJet > Joe Satriani's Fulltone Deja'Vibe > AnalogMan KOT > Vox Time Machine > Dumble Steel String Singer > Eventide Time Factor in loop > Aracom Attenuator for 4>16 ohm conversion > VocalBooth VB Amp iso booth > Avatar 1x12 open back cab loaded with a Scumback M75-HP-LHDC > Royer 121 > Avalon M5 mic pre > Pro Tools...
http://www.getkillertone.com/audio/Dumb ... achine.mp3
[img:854:638]http://www.getkillertone.com/images/Dum ... hinPRX.jpg[/img]

[Structo]

Wow!
Thanks a lot.

That's a lot of information and clips.

Who's playing?

[dr. who]

DougDoppler over @ TGP

Maybe Jelle will chime in since I think he was there

[Max]

2nd generation "pre-classic" Dumble ODS 50W

Band.............................Elgam Collective

Album title....................Hey Now, Hey China

Song title......................Bridge Of 1000 Autumns

All guitar tracks.............Charly Bonat

Vocals...........................Lucy Chen
Drums...........................Didi Konzett
Bass..............................Pit Drefahl
Violin.............................Hannes CB Rengshausen
Fender Rhodes...............Acimo
Soprano saxophone,
oboe, cor anglais, flute,
synth programming........Hans-Christian Nickel

"Hey Now, Hey China" CD (PayPal): http://element113.de/en/repertoire.html

"Hey Now, Hey China" mp3 downloads: http://www.amazon.com/Hey-Now-China/dp/ ... 5&sr=301-1

Recording setup for the guitar tacks:

'62 Stratocaster > Monster Studio Pro 1000 > Dumble ODS50W #041 > Marshall 4 x 12", Celestion G12M Pre-Rolas soldered for a total load of 4 OHM > Sennheiser MD 421 N > Telefunken TAB V76 > Mytek 8x192 > Logic 9

For the intro part a touch of Spreader ( http://winksound.com/video/Logic-Studio-Spreader-Plugin ) has been used.

For the solo part the FET input and the OD channel have been used (ambience added in Logic).

The elgam-collective was never formed and will never split. One of the line-ups consists of Zack Anderson (words), Jürgen Weltin (visual effects), Lucy Chen (vocals), Melody Zimmer (vocals), Hans-Christian Nickel (woodwinds and wind controllers), Martin Schreck (brass), Charly Bonat (guitar), Pit Drefahl (bass), acimo (keyboards), and Didi Konzett (drums).

Cheers,

Max

[Bob-I]

Bridge of 1000 Autumns is a GREAT track. I wanted to hear more of the soprano sax solo at the end. VERY