Excellent! Thank you. I had a friend over with a Neural and a lot of bad cleans, nothing very wide or with any forward voice.
Best ever is the Kingsley in front of the Modded side of the Bassman. When it starts to break it works so much like AC30/4 early early with bulb knobs. Super sound! I appreciate your help with info to choose the right direction for my own rig, not to mention, again, the amazing captures. Stunning Bassman. That amp is solid but it breathes like it's alive. About to dump sounds right now!
Reeltarded wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2024 10:21 pm
Ok, enough magic. Dood, what are you using to do captures? I cycled through several interfaces and direct schemes today but even the things that sound identical do not have the bouncy rebound of anything you have published.
I even called a friend my Benchmark set of ad/da is on loan to and left a message that I might need those back heh
There is a variety of gear over the course of these captures. The constants are a Radial PRO RMP reamp box(the old cheap one) into amp in and a Fractal Audio X-Load resistive load box on "UK" voicing at output. I have made certain that the reamp box feeds the input like a Telecaster wide open. I used 2 different interfaces as converters. I have been using a MOTU 424 PCI system with Black Lion modded 1224 and 1296 converter boxes for far too long. Some captures are with a new MOTU M4 (ESS Sabre32 Ultra DAC). I believe the only capture influenced by my preamps was the Foxy 18 amp+cab capture. That used a Chandler Germanium pre & SM57 and Meris 440 with CAD Trion ribbon. Cab was a Hermida ported 1 x 12 with an ancient G12-65. You owe it to yourself to play a Telecaster through that......
I have had the amps dialed in for quite a while and believe i know where they sound best to me - that may be a factor. Posted 3 more takes on the Magic Dust - 1 bright clean and 2 drive captures with way more gain. You may need to use a noise gate on the capture with drives 1 & 2 cascaded - especially if you have single coils. Don't know how long I will keep the two Redplates up there so grab them while you can. The amps I have built will probably stay up. Glad y'all are digging the captures. To be honest, the interest on the forum was the only reason I put them up to share. If they end up being gone in the future - I will just email links to files for you all if you PM me.
P.S. It is probably dog hair conductance that contibutes much to the mojo of these captures. Crikey - I have to take a feather duster to my console.........
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Yep. I sold my AC15 as soon as I got that Kingsley. Works all kinds of magic. In front of an amp, in a loop, after the Tonex... My big board has been dedicated to silent sounds since I no longer play out. I use an HX Stomp as an IR loader and headphone amp with ambience. The Squire + Page was my "tube amp" substitute. When that Tonex update drops with mod & delay I may not have a board at all. I am set up to A/B my loaded amps vs the Tonex and, to my ears, it is so close to being there it's nuts. Another tip I have stumbled upon is that some captures benefit from a touch of that post compressor to give it some guts. If you are at all a greenback guy these: https://www.yorkaudio.co/product-page/kw-412-m25-sh are startlingly good IRs. I never thought this tech would satify me in my lifetime. These youngerns are in a golden age of great tones in a small footprint. We used to haul Marshalls and B3s to gigs and tromp to school in the snow - uphill - both ways...
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I am going to load 3-4 settings of the Kingsley into the TXOne. It is an excellent tool.
I am still using a 12 channel mixer to get all my inputs to the power and still using 4x12s but the beast is conspiring against me with ir and full rig captures. I will hang on for the benefits of only amp replacement for now. Still have some ideas to work out about extreme volumes with captures not exactly duplicating same with actual amps. I mean really loud.
I use a Rane PE-17 in my chain even if defeated because the line amp and resistance match to low-z. The transformer turns glassy things into breath. A direct box is a must.
The effects will negate everything but the sources as inputs so I need to consider just a passive matrix for mixing to 2 buss after update.
Those Dust captures are fantastic, and thank you again! I don't think you need anything I have to capture but maybe when I get it all worked out.
stelligan wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:20 pm
Yep. I sold my AC15 as soon as I got that Kingsley. Works all kinds of magic. In front of an amp, in a loop, after the Tonex... My big board has been dedicated to silent sounds since I no longer play out. I use an HX Stomp as an IR loader and headphone amp with ambience. The Squire + Page was my "tube amp" substitute. When that Tonex update drops with mod & delay I may not have a board at all. I am set up to A/B my loaded amps vs the Tonex and, to my ears, it is so close to being there it's nuts. Another tip I have stumbled upon is that some captures benefit from a touch of that post compressor to give it some guts. If you are at all a greenback guy these: https://www.yorkaudio.co/product-page/kw-412-m25-sh are startingly good IRs. I never thought this tech would satify me in my lifetime. These youngerns are in a golden age of great tones in a small footprint. We used to haul Marshalls and B3s to gigs and tromp to school in the snow - uphill - both ways...
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I still have all my amps and cabs at arms length so, I don't know why I am on a mission to A/B this tech to death against it. Fun - I suppose. And allows me to play at what is perceived as "loud" all day long without hearing about it in the HOA newsletter.........
stelligan wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2024 1:03 pm
I still have all my amps and cabs at arms length so, I don't know why I am on a mission to A/B this tech to death against it. Fun - I suppose. And allows me to play at what is perceived as "loud" all day long without hearing about it in the HOA newsletter.........
The only time I get to play is after work... sitting on the couch with Amy. She doesn't mind the lack of volume while I'm playing. Win/win.
"Education is what you're left with after you have forgotten what you have learned" - Enzo
I sent some reworked (TX to Neural) captures out on a friend's gig tonight and he texted me three songs in and wanted to know if I was busy Thursday afternoon to show him other sounds. He was pretty sure I was just talking when I told him about the difference in captures.
I sent IK Italy an email yesterday suggesting a rotary encoder product and told them Fender doesn't understand how to market the line. I am going to beat them up for a consultancy. lol
Imagine that this place gets a signature capture set release. Fred's cascaded Tweedle goes on tour. Someone needs to make a 1Gb plugin player that will take Waves vst. I want the Ren set, Altiverb, and Sony eq plus Reel ADT insert in a modded TX.
I need a new computer rig to capture with. A cheap and powerful laptop. This is more fun than soldering. Win or lose in under two hours.
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Reeltarded wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2024 7:33 am
Imagine that this place gets a signature capture set release. Fred's cascaded Tweedle goes on tour. Someone needs to make a 1Gb plugin player that will take Waves vst. I want the Ren set, Altiverb, and Sony eq plus Reel ADT insert in a modded TX.
Yes. A hardware VST plugin host. That "Muse Receptor" was a brilliant concept but I believe it died off. I am able to achieve a similar thing with BlueCat's Patchwork on my computers. It will host Tonex or Helix Native and add & rout plugins.
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A standalone plugin module is a must. I found a weird open source hardware thing on YouTube by accident yesterday..
Also, the wild west of IR vs reality needs to end because 310,000 out of 311,000 users make the worst choices. The York purchase was simple with Scott's raving and your suggestion. $17 to perfection.
I am not looping through a computer to play so I don't really need the IRs right now, HOWEVER that becomes the next driving force, or at least I think so. I wonder what the D120 York set would do for your Bassman. The example they have up is also amazing. Their G1275 example is so good I can see the amo settings in my mind.
What IR from the set do you prefer? The 1 U67 paired with the 3 room tone is great, but haven't played it through decent FR yet, just a mono powered QSC my friend has. The U47 rooms should have been also included as Blumlein and M/S Great captures though!
PS: FRFR cabinets are stupid and expensive. NO
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Reeltarded wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2024 8:31 pm
What IR from the set do you prefer? The 1 U67 paired with the 3 room tone is great, but haven't played it through decent FR yet, just a mono powered QSC my friend has. The U47 rooms should have been also included as Blumlein and M/S Great captures though!
PS: FRFR cabinets are stupid and expensive. NO
Nailed it. I host the U67 in mono on the Tonex(or the 57) then either of the stereo room pairs hosted in the HX with some ambience or reverb after. However, my goal is headphones with this setup. So, Tonex mono into the HX then split to stereo for room mics and reverbs. I am with you on FR. I have 3 Redplates that each have tube buffered returns that I can use as monitoring with cabs - then shit can the IR bit when I am loud in room. But then I am using the real thing anyway - 2 4 x 6L6 choices. Loud enough for most
*just checked the HX and I am using RML-1 and RML-3 in 2 differend patches. So large room with an AEA r88 stereo ribbon?
stelligan wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2024 10:32 pm
Nailed it. I host the U67 in mono on the Tonex(or the 57) then either of the stereo room pairs hosted in the HX with some ambience or reverb after. However, my goal is headphones with this setup. So, Tonex mono into the HX then split to stereo for room mics and reverbs. I am with you on FR. I have 3 Redplates that each have tube buffered returns that I can use as monitoring with cabs - then shit can the IR bit when I am loud in room. But then I am using the real thing anyway - 2 4 x 6L6 choices. Loud enough for most
*just checked the HX and I am using RML-1 and RML-3 in 2 differend patches. So large room with an AEA r88 stereo ribbon?
Yeah AEAs. Try the B160s up close on the Bassman. I can't remember the exact ir numbers, the ones close to half-way between the center and edge, where the loudest things happen. I like Coles and 160 attempts a similar thing.
I have a Sony jambox from the last decade for moving around the house rig. It may sound INSANE but I would buy a similar much larger device for gigs before any current "professional" offerings. lol.. ok that made it smell like the 80s when they tried to sell me one of those GKs.. but even an old stereo receiver/amplifier and a pair of real monitors would be more useful than these Chinese FRFR things priced like Italian formal wear.
IKs next move has to be something similar to getting Amplitube 5 into a pedal or rackable format. It uncomplicates the process of high level input signals not doing anything analog, expected, or nice.
Ok, now about this mixIR plugin. That seems like a no brainer.. PCM60 on my room? Yep! Thanks!
I really like this whole idea. The perfection is cloudy and complicated. The best things in life are ambiguous puzzles.
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Reeltarded wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2024 1:04 am
Ok, now about this mixIR plugin. That seems like a no brainer.. PCM60 on my room? Yep! Thanks!
I really like this whole idea. The perfection is cloudy and complicated. The best things in life are ambiguous puzzles.
mixIR3 - Can't remember what it cost but, worth the dough. Can rout multiple IRs in stereo image and export your mixed IR. Neve and API eq, too. Decent IRs that are optimized for the plugin.
These new 102 build 4 x 6L6 captures will be up for a week or two.
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Reeltarded wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2024 1:04 am
Ok, now about this mixIR plugin. That seems like a no brainer.. PCM60 on my room? Yep! Thanks!
I really like this whole idea. The perfection is cloudy and complicated. The best things in life are ambiguous puzzles.
mixIR3 - Can't remember what it cost but, worth the dough. Can rout multiple IRs in stereo image and export your mixed IR. Neve and API eq, too. Decent IRs that are optimized for the plugin.
These new 102 build 4 x 6L6 captures will be up for a week or two.
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I have a bunch of IR loaders (including mixIR3), however, what I am using lately is Cabinetron by ThreeBodyTech.
It's my "endgame" IR loader lately and sounds (FWIW, salt applied, etc.) best to me. There was a running 50% off promotion recently and its worth every penny, IMO.
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