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OK..
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Original Tweed Deluxe are offered at $6k - $10k on Reverb. Fender hand wired Tweed Deluxe retails for $2700.
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tonedog100 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2026 12:55 am With that degree of distortion I thought I would heard the 2nd harmonic distortion created by the phase splitter's blocking distortion. The Tweedle Dee mod does provide negative feedback on the phase splitter, but since its unity gain, it doesn't reduce the blocking distorion signficantly. I'm speculating, but it almost seems like there's an increased series resistance to the grid of the phase splitter, but again I'm guessing.
What, exactly, is the function of LNFB around a unity-gain stage anyway?
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martin manning wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2026 3:40 pm Well there's the answer to the speaker in the new TD, 25W greenback.
Suggest these fresh trademark owners have used a blueprint for https://ampgarage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=37151 to launch this product release.

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Mr. dB wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2026 9:38 pm What, exactly, is the function of LNFB around a unity-gain stage anyway?
Gain is less than unity, adding LNFB makes it more less than unity, and increases bandwidth as usual. Adding a large grid stopper might be a good idea to limit HF response and prevent undesirable distortion.
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Is there any info regarding which Greenback model is being used G12H or G12M?
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Sorry, just picked up on earlier post, G12M.
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martin manning wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2026 10:18 pm That would certainly take it in the right direction. It’d be interesting to hear from someone who has built a Tweedle to the spec published here on TAG.
Hey Martin, I built one 10 years ago or so (I think it was a Triode Kit!) , I remember it being a great sounding amp, but basically just a tighter, more aggressive amp than it was the day before when it was a 5e3.
But I don't remember it sounding like a superlead like the one Joe is playing :) But it does sound killer.

Nonetheless, Kirk Fletcher has one, or at least was playing one a couple weeks ago. I'm going to guess the pedal on his amp is verb, he's not a gain pedal kinda guy. He works the guitar volume big time . But I could be wrong. All those blues guys stick a verb pedal on top of their amp if its a tweed. https://youtu.be/nZaLswPW1VY?si=dVrb7e_mFgELXMRT&t=96 about 1:30 in. That's just a cell phone at a live show so to me is a more realistic demo.

I happened to pick up a 5e3 build a local guy built, w/ Heyboers, 350V plates, jupiter caps, jensen alnico, and it's one of the best sounding 5E3s I've ever heard. Dead stock, and I have a 50's one in now I just finished.
I mean, it sounds great, but not as great as my $800 kit amp. The new Fenders do sound really good too, but $2700?? Damn.
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Mr. dB wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2026 9:54 pm
martin manning wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2026 3:06 pm Joe B says the original Tweedle Dee’s he had come into contact with were “a bit gainy” for his taste, so yea maybe. Could be some circuit mods and/or a different speaker. Then there’s the other two-thirds of the equation, the guitar and the player,,,
Tweedle Dee plans here always show a 12AX7 first stage, maybe they've dialed that back to the 12AY7?
12AX7 through and through.

The website in now life. Interestingly it comes with a ground switch.
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Stock MM 5e3 power transformers produce 400VDC+ , so that's likely what's going on here (looking at the website description) . They likely had some tweedle dee stickers printed up
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Smokebreak3 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2026 12:14 am
martin manning wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2026 10:18 pm That would certainly take it in the right direction. It’d be interesting to hear from someone who has built a Tweedle to the spec published here on TAG.
Hey Martin, I built one 10 years ago or so (I think it was a Triode Kit!) , I remember it being a great sounding amp, but basically just a tighter, more aggressive amp than it was the day before when it was a 5e3.
But I don't remember it sounding like a superlead like the one Joe is playing :) But it does sound killer.
Sounds about right based on reports by others.
Smokebreak3 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2026 12:14 am Nonetheless, Kirk Fletcher has one, or at least was playing one a couple weeks ago. I'm going to guess the pedal on his amp is verb, he's not a gain pedal kinda guy. He works the guitar volume big time . But I could be wrong. All those blues guys stick a verb pedal on top of their amp if it's a tweed. https://youtu.be/nZaLswPW1VY?si=dVrb7e_mFgELXMRT&t=96 about 1:30 in. That's just a cell phone at a live show so to me is a more realistic demo.
Nice sounds. Humbuckers again, like JB, so feeding it something different from what it was designed for.
Smokebreak3 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2026 12:14 am I happened to pick up a 5e3 build a local guy built, w/ Heyboers, 350V plates, jupiter caps, jensen alnico, and it's one of the best sounding 5E3s I've ever heard. Dead stock, and I have a 50's one in now I just finished.
I mean, it sounds great, but not as great as my $800 kit amp. The new Fenders do sound really good too, but $2700?? Damn.
I'm convinced you can build a great sounding amp if you just get the voltages right and use good quality parts such as you mention. Not sure the $10 coupling caps are necessary tho. It'd be interesting to see what component types are in the new T-Dee's
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Website has been updated with three amp models available. All are special order only. Contact them for pricing and availability. I heard on That Pedal Show the new ODS goes for $25,000. Consider me uninterested.
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award70 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 06, 2026 2:08 am Website has been updated with three amp models available. All are special order only. Contact them for pricing and availability. I heard on That Pedal Show the new ODS goes for $25,000. Consider me uninterested.
I guess they think they have the cachet to set the price that high. Really it's a steal compared to the $150k that dealers are asking for "real" ones, eh? I signed up for the email list. We'll se how that goes.
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"I heard on That Pedal Show the new ODS goes for $25,000. Consider me uninterested"
That goes for me too.. :cry:
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